So... You're gonna defend poor writing by claiming it's necessity, and then just admit that it's shitty?

You're not arguing, you're just agreeing with me in a snippy way.

It's true. Just because he strings a bunch of cool looking shots together doesn't mean it's good action.

The Avengers looks like a TV show with a movie sized budget and it's a million times more memorable, resonant and genuinely involving than anything in Bay's filmography.

I do, and that's why I can tell you that you're 100% factually wrong about this. Good movies use MacGuffins, too.

And even using your more specific (and wrong) definition... The Transformers movies' MacGuffins are developed and explained? Really? No. They're completely vague in terms function, all we really understand is that bad things/good things will happen if they come into use, and, more importantly, the character's motivations for wanting these things are just generically evil/noble nothingness.

 

Writing and directing. Have the writing and directing been awful, the movie would have been awful even with that quality of cgi.
Or do you just don't get the basis in charactetization.?

 

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No, we don't. We know what they do, and we know that the characters want them, and intellectually, we might even know why. But it's not viscerally engaging at all. WHY does Optimus Prime want to save humanity? WHY does Megatron want to destroy it? WHY the hell should've we care?

The movies certainly never lay it out.

The stories are simplistic, it's just that they're told in such a ridiculously convoluted and counter-intuitive way.

... You don't know the first thing about filmmaking do you?

 

We definitely could use Andy Serkis's involvement in the movies. He could play anyone.

 

With respect (I really like some of those listed), they aren't exactly all "big names", today.

Anyway, the point of mo-capping actors to be the TFs, to me, is that they can be the actual stars of the movies and we could focus less on the human characters.

 

Please. We don't need shorty-stalkers that fap to a ring ON a ring.

 

There needs to be a reference to the fact that Ehren Kruger wrote The Ring in here.

 

Clancy Browns voice is perfect for a future Decepticon.