Why all hate on Michael Bay ?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by zachprime86, Sep 27, 2014.

  1. Moy

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    Link?
     
  2. TheYearIs2005

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    Bay seems like a good guy, just trying to make a living and have fun.
    No matter what you will always get stick for anything you do, that's life.

    Look at Football for example, there is always someone with an opinion even if you get the 3 points.
     
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    I can't stand Football :p 
     
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    Hold up, Bay said he's not coming back?
     
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    He said he wants to do something different but he didn't said anything about TF
     
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    Don't worry. He says stuff like that a lot. Unless you don't like him. In which case, sorry to kill your hope.
     
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    I'm sorry but no. Just, no.

    Cybertron has been dead and uninhabited for thousands of years. What would be the big deal and how could you revolve a story around the Autobots moping about their home for 2-3 hours?

    No. No. No. What, do you think this is some 9-5 job where he just sits on set twiddling his thumbs? The amount of effort put into Transformers movies is ridiculously extensive and to say he's just not trying is absurd.
     
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    Michael Bay is the snizz! :bay 
     
  9. JazzIsBack

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    Because he took G1's beautifully written and complex backstory and made it into one big toy commercial!
     
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    I don't hate him but I don't love him.

    While he's been trying to improve each movie there still many issues I have with them.
     
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    I barely had any hope for live action TF films at this point. TF4 was honestly so bad I decided not to go to the next one unless they bring someone new in. Honestly, if they could just bring in a second director or a different producer, someone with skill who can keep Bay on a TIGHT leash, we'd probably get some higher quality films.
     
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    Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, and Cybertron cartoon series between the end of G1 and the live action movie.

    A revival of Transformers in comic book form before the films.

    Transformers toys on retailer shelves more consistently than any of the other toy lines from the 80's.

    I just don't get why people think Transformers was dead just because they weren't buying the toys or watching the cartoons at the time.
     
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    G1 ain't dying, what are you on? :p 
     
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    Until Hasbro release a Transforming football which is in TF5
     
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    Yet how many times has he said he wasn't coming back, but came back anyway?

    Paramount and Hasbro aren't going to let this guy go... not without a fight. Even if Bay wants nothing to do with TF anymore, they're going to find SOME way of luring him back in.

    Almost make me pity him. Except I don't, because holy god, he's so rich.
     
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    Ebay:
    The Bayheminator says, "I won't be back." What that translates into for layperson speak is "Of course, I'll be back for the money, dumb@$$!."
     
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    The powers that be just sigh, draw another dollar sign on the bag of cash, and hand it back, repeating the process as many times as it takes.
     
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    Well, no because a director should never be limited in their style. Bay himself didn't really enjoy working on tf4 that much.
     
  20. griffn29

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    Well, I hated this fourth movie, but I think I'm one of the only people (fans or haters) who doesn't blame Bay at all for the way this piece of crap turned out. The studio impinged on his creative control to get a movie that would appeal to more people and even if that wasn't true he seems like he's tired of the transformers movie series at this point and really wants to move on, despite that being against the wishes of paramount. He's a human being too, and despite the aspects of the film that i'm not fond of, he puts a ton of work into each of his movies, far more than the average director. He even shoots second unit; every shot that was in this movie was done with him behind the camera.

    But, yeah, it feels like Bay was trying to make the best out of shooting AOE because he was really getting tired of the franchise. Like in this interview:
    -> http://collider.com/transformers-5-details-michael-bay/ <-
    I admit he's certainly not bagging on the experience (or the interviewer for that matter, not that he could anyway), but he's certainly not talking about the experience in glowing terms.

    I get the vibe that he enjoyed working with most of the actors in this film and certainly got to have fun with a lot of new technology, but when it comes down to the story and characters, the bread and butter of what a movie is, he really seems burnt out.

    Like, there's a lot of shots in this movie that were probably done with a passion, but there was also an equal if not greater amount of shots that felt horribly phoned in, and certainly not to the enjoyment or confidence as they were done in say, transformers 1. Not to mention the terrible production push for home plate due to the late script changes that resulted in mandated reshoots and manifested in how rushed the editing for this movie was just to get it done by the deadline. There are a lot of things Bay put in the first trilogy that people might not have enjoyed, like the humor or some of the robot designs, but it was at sort of an invisible cost for having the action sequences because those things were part of what he enjoyed to add. Michael Bay isn't simply the producer, he has to shoot this stuff and see it through to the end; and if a studio mandates him to cut out they dont enjoy about his films but make him ramp up what they do enjoy, then -with a director like Bay definitely- the film loses a lot of its passion and feels more like a job. This movie didn't feel like something he made because he wanted to, it feels like something he wanted to make because he had to. And while that aspect alone doesn't really have a handle on this film's over all quality, those vibes of being excessively produced (for money) really came through in this movie, far more than in the other three.