Fanfiction themes: real or myth?

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  1. WilyMech

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    2. Trines exist but not in fanfiction has it. It more group of three seekers who are working together out of mutual interests and not actual bond. Teamwork can help cover weaknesses.

    7. Wings being the most sensitive part of the body. No. It would be the first target for an enemy to hit the most vulnerable part of the body to disarm and disabled an foe.
     
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    I believe that fic is Nightwind's Vigil. It's actually a lot older than the post date suggests; it was written about 1991-2.
     
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    I read the thing with Swoop. Swoop is characterized as the Sensitive one given who the the Autobot in question hangs out. I seen some characters with more Sensitivity than a dynobot has.
     
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    Truthfully, any character that has wings in anything will get hit with that in fanfiction.


    I do like some of these though, the idea that Rumble and Frenzy would prank the other's isn't too farfetched since they're cheeky little bastards and the notion that they spend their downtime winding up Starscream (who is a magnet for this behaviour) is honestly pretty hilarious.

    I remember that one, it's quite sad. I also recall one where Swoop struck up a relationship with Arcee that was quite sweet. Although it got kind of weird with Springer doing the clingy ex thing and he had a go at Swoop: and what was really strange was that the other Dinobots didn't attempt to kick nine shades of shit out of him.

    Swoop probably gets that because of all the Dinobots, he's techically the smartest. I've also seen some fics that hook onto the notion that Sludge is an artist: one memorable story had him using a soldering iron to etch small pictures into the walls of the base. I guess because Sludge and Swoop are the least violent of the dinobots they're allowed more leway.

    Hell, I recall one where Sparkplug taught Grimlock to do Tai Chi.

    Despite it's (not undeserved) reputation as just a soft (and sometimes not so soft) porn repository; some fanfiction can touch on some really neat and clever stuff.
     
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    Yes, that's the one!! Wow, thanks for posting that, I never thought I'd see it again.

    I like the building of "fanon" (as long as people don't act like you're committing some grievous sin when you ignore it, as happens in the G4 MLP fandom sometimes). It's fun, almost like trading ideas.

    The "Seekers-in-Trine" thing fascinates me because even if "three Seekers make a Trine" is a common fanfic idea, it gets played out every which way depending on the fic. Also because I thoroughly enjoy seeing people build up more culture for G1 Transformers than was "officially" presented. I love world-builders.
     
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    Ugh. Soundwave is one of the most sadistic, despicable, irredeemable Decepticons... even his fellow Cons fear and hate him.

    See, that's the kind of bullshit that keeps me away from fanfics... well, there are other things that keep me away, but you get the idea...

    zmog
     
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    The brony fandom, a friend of mine who's a brony went very in-depth about certain MLP erotic fanfiction and Pegasuses' wings. Although looking at some of the posts in here I now suspect that it isn't just a brony thing now.



    I fear I'm going to get torn to pieces for this post.
     
  8. TFan2013

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    *raises brow*

    Just because a wing is sensitive doesn't mean it elicits erotic reactions. I've read a number of fics where the ideal choice of or most extreme form of punishment/torture in the Decepticon ranks was to tear into those wings. Or a snapped! or Shattered glass Autobot would target the wings for torture/part of inflicting a gruesome death.
     
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    Well, Sturgeon's Law at work really. The concept isn't too far fetched; after all, Tony Soprano loved the ducks that swam in his pool. Didn't stop him from being a murderous sociopath.

    Well, considering they're fliers; targetting their wings is a crippling blow to them from a tactical standpoint.
     
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    But Soundwave has children and pets! He can't be all bad! :p 
     
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    Sadistic? You sure? Yeah, he follows orders from Megatron, a guy who has sadistic tendencies, but has there really been proof in a series that Soundwave takes delight in torturing others?
     
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    Buffalo Bill had Precious the poodle. Just sayin'.

    If you only take the G1 cartoon canon, Soundwave is more of an asshole than a pyschopath. I think if you check out his comicbook character (old and new), then yeah, he's a few tortilla short of a burrito. I'm not sure if he's standard crazy or Overlord and Stalker crazy though.
     
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    I agree with you. As far as I'm concerned, fanfics are for interpreting and breaking down underdeveloped characters (or in many cases reinventing them), filling plotholes, extending storylines, adding scenes that many agree should have been in canon , and worldbuilding in general. Truthfully, it almost depresses me how much slash and romance there is in fanfiction because some of the best stories and worldbuilding I have read have been based around pairings.

    Within the fanon I am involved with, Soundwave is a bit of a wildcard. Many simply take the minimal character seen in the cartoon, and build on that without any other influence. I've seen Soundwave's character interpreted as everything from the simplified output of an advanced drone, all the way to a facade intended to protect himself and his cassettes (who are frequently depicted as offspring). I even read one fic where he was a communications technician that was extorted into joining the Decepticons.

    More or less in full agreement with this. Some touches on the wings are erotic, and others are calming. And, because they are so sensitive, disfiguring them is the ultimate torture.
     
  14. Aernaroth

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    Soundwave is a professional, in the same way a mercenary is a professional. If Soundwave figured he had a better chance of getting ahead by disobeying Megatron or by letting one of his tapes come to harm, you can be sure that's the way he'd go. That's why the other Decepticons hate him so much: They know he's never going to look out for anyone other than himself, and because he's terrifyingly GOOD at it.
     
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    If he did sacrifice his cassettes, I don't think he'd do it lightly.
     
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    Okay. But does Soundwave take actual pleasure in inflicting pain on others? That's the question. From the cartoon versions, I don't pick up that vibe. That's why I'm questioning the person who first called him sadistic.
     
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    G1 cartoon Soundwave's main trait is that he's loyal, IMO. He follows Megatron's orders and sometimes stops Starscream from shooting him in the back, mostly. Once or twice he laughs his creepy laugh when something goes wrong for one of the other Decepticons, but it's not like it's a regular occurrence.

    I did read an awesome fanfic that posited that the reason that Starscream's attempts to overthrow Megatron kept going wrong was because Soundwave was a telepath, and therefore Starscream could never plan ahead, he always had to act off-the-cuff.
     
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    It'd have to be something that he thought was more valuable than keeping a devoted minion around that coordinates with others and his own systems, but yeah, if that was the situation, or if it was to save his own skin, I think he'd do it in a sparkbeat.

    He's unempathetic, maybe even cruel, but I don't think I'd call him sadistic. Not unless he felt he had something to gain by acting that way.
     
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    Got that impression too, but never thought he might actually act that way just to illicit a desired response from others. Crafty.
     
  20. WilyMech

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    I am not sure. Soundwave is one of the best operatives for the Decepticons have. I do not believe he is sadistic in the comparison to Vortex and even Overlord. Soundwave sees torture as means to end and not something to enjoy. I am not going to say he uncaring either in the sense Soundwave does care about the cassettes to a degree. Ruthless, tactician and even to point of being logical when needed.