Why did G1 end?

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Wheeljack30, Jun 18, 2012.

  1. rxlthunder

    rxlthunder Banned

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    You don't understand, RID and beyond was a reboot. Sure, everything post movie sucks, but at least in those 6 -7 years we got combiners, triple changers and while not aerialbots, flying Autobots.
     
  2. Backpack

    Backpack G1 forever.

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    I agree this will happen someday. But, you know it will again lead to everything you hated that came after 1984 right?

    Oh, and season 1 of G1 didn't have a small cast. By the end of the season there were 43 TF characters..... TFP currently has somewhere around 13 ( not counting the dead ones) after nearly 2 years.
     
  3. Matrixbeast

    Matrixbeast Here comes a thought

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    Why re-boot G1 when we could make an original story reusing names to sell more toys?
     
  4. CelticMutt

    CelticMutt Baka Mitai

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    Welcome to every time I read his posts.

    Uh ... *hides conspicuous liquor bottles that happen to be right next to desk ...*

    Check out the lovely quote from my sig for more of that "logic."

    I'd post the Citizen Kane clapping gif, but this post if going to be big enough as it is, so I'll just say - THIS.

    Clearly you are either lying to make another poorly conceived point, or you never read the Prime forums.

    Normally I'd agree, but he posts in any thread about G1. It's kinda hard to ignore him.

    Maybe if you didn't sling around bigoted insults people wouldn't go to the mods.
     
  5. Backpack

    Backpack G1 forever.

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    I have to ask, at that point why not just do G1?

    It's already gotten to the point where there are more characters directly based off G1 than original characters simply reuseing names.
     
  6. CelticMutt

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    Yup, RID, UT, Animated by flat out designers admission, the movies, and Prime are all G1 reboots.
     
  7. kaijuguy19

    kaijuguy19 Keyblade Wielder

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    You really think everything post movies are terrible?

    I'm just asking if you really believe that or not.
     
  8. rxlthunder

    rxlthunder Banned

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    I'm sorry, "mate", but have you ever considered being a man? Even if that one comment was a deliberate attack on 60% of the boards and your the White Knight of the Prime show, your still not required to request a validation of my opinion.

    Oh, and to the 60% that I have mentioned, you all need to realize that 1984forever is in some ways like some of you, annoying and quick to defend what brought them to Transformers. I'm not naming names, but you know who you are.
     
  9. kaijuguy19

    kaijuguy19 Keyblade Wielder

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    I was mearly asking! I just didn't know you weren't into anything post TF that's all.
     
  10. The621

    The621 Fuck you, that's why!

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    ...........

    I'm not drinking with you, barbershop....

    There's a variety of fans that exist here. But to like TF's, no one has to like every single thing to get along.

    Kiss Players and the Bayformers are where I draw the line. I can get along with a number of live action movie fans. Only cause I like the robots and hate every single thing about the humans. It's not OBJECTIVE when you look at something like the live action movie and realize the robots and NEST and human fighters do all the work.

    But it IS OBJECTIVE to say Transformers began with robots and ends with robots.
     
  11. 0MEGATR0N

    0MEGATR0N Robot/Gladiator

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    good luck with that.
     
  12. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    G1 ended so we can argue about it 20 some year later.
     
  13. NathanS

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    About 1984forever: Have you people never heard of a troll before?
     
  14. Sweep

    Sweep worse then vehicon drones

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    I think because Transformers the Movie did poorly in theaters, and hasbro lost money, so they had to stop the tv medium, but their were still the toys, and comics that continued on.
     
  15. Blitzwing2008

    Blitzwing2008 Triple changing menace

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    you could be right about the 1986 movie being unable to make hasbro the money they wanted also add in the possibility of falling viewing percentages through out season 3
     
  16. Ultra Lagmus

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    Yes and no. GI Joe had a mini-series (5 eps) in Fall 1983, then another in Fall 1984, but a full series didn't come til Fall 1985, 1 full year after TF was on the air. The 1st was He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. Toyline appeared in 1982, cartoon premiered Fall 1983 (Orko went back from cartoon to toy though). He-Man was animated in the US which is why the art style looks like '60s-70s cartoons and not like an anime-derived art style.

    As for fickle kids, consider TF G1 as both a fad and an enduring toyline (fads only last 1-2 years, the toyline lasted 7 years, 4 years with top 10 sales). It's similar to Pokemon, the 1st gen of games was a fad, had huge sales, they got the 2nd gen in just in time to still tap the fad's astronomical numbers but after 2 years, the fad faded, but there still was a huge base of fans which keep Pokemon among the best selling games even a decade+ later. TF was a fad in 84-85, the fad started to cool off but left behind enough kids to still be a strong-selling toyline, but then changes to G1 in 1988 combined with new strong competitors (TMNT) and things impacting the toy industry as a whole (NES/video games) lead to sales plummeting.

    If people want a conspiracy theory regarding Marvel & Hasbro & Sunbow (Marvel owned the, didn't they?). Look at the GI Joe comic, it did appear right around the start of the toyline, remained popular for years, but it conveniently ends *right* when the toyline ends in late 1994. TF ended back in 1991. I don't know their sales figure late on but have heard GI Joe & TF were quite popular in the '80s and some issues stood out among comic readers as a whole (like that one the SAW Viper kills a huge number of Joes, comparable to Scourge slaughtering all the D-list villains in the Bar with No Name).

    Oh, still looking into the possibility of any kind of downturn circa late 86-87. Looking into it I got detoured into Tokugawa Shogunate coinage and other tangents (BTW, why coins in video games were so often ovoid? Like in the SMB series. They were based on the gold coin from the Edo period in Japan. Koban (coin) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
     
  17. Ruination04

    Ruination04 8 Years Old Since 1984!

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    THIS!! LOL

    All good things must end. It had run its course unfortunately. People like me were getting older and getting into Nintendo, girls, etc.


    As a child back then, I don't recall ever thinking that way. I didn't think about designs, materials, articulation, etc. They were all cool but I just liked Mario Bros. better.
     
  18. Wheeljack30

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    Did TF:TM really killed G1??
     
  19. SouthtownKid

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    You can honestly read this entire thread, and then pick that ONE answer as the one you decide to believe is true?

    Okay, keep on trucking, I guess.
     
  20. Ultra Lagmus

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    Well, since many try giving flippant guesses as to why G1 ended, I'll say this:

    The cartoon ended because of "Carnage in C-Minor". The original few broadcasts were fine, but the tapes, after having been run a few times, degraded a bit and got out of synch (made from a bad batch of tapes by the distributor from the master tape provided by Sunbow. The chemical mix that made the film was bad, making it deteriorate faster than other episodes), and one fateful day in June 1988, a rerun of "Carnage in C-Minor" aired and Basso Profundo's low singing shifted even lower, and hit the fabled brown note, causing all viewers to crap their pants (shorts then, it was summer). The incident caused the series to be pulled after that Friday and suspended until Claster found out what was wrong, but by then, it was too late to restore the series to the air. Because it was more embarrassing than a genuine health threat (e.g. Pokemon "Electric Soldier Porygon"), it was quietly swept under the carpet.



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    "Let there be... poop"
    The face that ended the G1 cartoon