Rescue Bots, Episodes 12&13, The Other Dr. & Reign of Morocco-Discussion

Does anyone understand the concept of "subject to change" this means that even though the shows creators have said that before the shows aired that evidence in the finished project suggests that they are different continuities.

Hell if you're going to use that argument than the Christian Bale Batman movies are in continuity with Smallvile and Bruce Wayne is a teenager because Larry Franco said they were. (Larry Franco is one of the producers who told me about this concept some time late 2003, early 2004.) Obviously Bruce Wayne is not a teenage and there is no evidence that any of the movies are in continuity with Smallvile.

Judge the series as a finished product not on the word of the creators. If they were making it to be the same continuity then why isn't Optimus Prime the same guy in both shows? One is a flat nose, the other is a long nose. There's no in story reason for him to change vehicle modes so obviously it's a different character.

Plus, re-runs of G1 are also running on the same network at the same time. They have 3 Transformers shows, the original, Prime, and Rescue Bots. By that reasoning he could have just as easily been talking about the original Transformers cartoon and Optimus actually looks like a stylized G1 Optimus. They can't really be the same guy either because RB Blades is a totally different character from G1 Blades.

If you're going to quote the creators you could at least quote something that doesn't conflict with what actually appears on screen. I'll believe they're the same continuity when the creators actually do something in story to link them. Till then I'm taking it as "This is subject to change and may not actually happen" because that's what it is. Everything is subject to change until they actually do it in the finished product. Sense they haven't done what they said they were going to do then it's because they're not the same continuity.

It's like the Marvel movies. They're trying to make all the movies part of a single Marvel universe but right now that universe only includes the movies that lead up to the Avengers until they start adding more heroes into that universe. There were 3 other Captain America movies made before the 2011 movie. Don't know the first one but the other two were with Reb Brown. None of them are in continuity with the new one. The first Hulk movie is out of continuity because the second movie was made as a reboot with a different origin for the Hulk. Ghost Rider is not in continuity. Blade is not in continuity. None of the Spider-Man movies are in continuity though the reboot might be. Fantastic Four is defiantly not in continuity because Captain America and Human Torch are played by the same actor and that would just be weird.

They're going to have to reboot Fantastic Four at some point because Reed Richards, Hank Pym, and Tony Stark each had a hand in building Ultron who really needs to be a villain in an Avengers sequel.

it is the same contiuinty. jeff kline said so Lol. And the reason why optimus doesn't look as stylized as prime prime is well because the shows use diff styles. while prime is sleek and stylized rb is kinda boxy. Looks don't mean anything hell jeff kline even said they'd be a crossover

Learn to read. I specifically said I knew why the styles were different and wasn't talking about Animation style.

I'm talking about why Optimus Prime has an entirely different transformation and vehicle mode between the two shows. Animation style has nothing to do with it.

G1 and Rescue Bots has a different Animation Style. If they were the same continuity they wouldn't have to explain why Optimus Prime looks different because it's just the animation that is different not the actual design of the character. They would have to explain why Blades is a totally different character and why Optimus said Cybertron was a dead planet in the pilot.

With Prime and Rescue Bots you can't just say well it's a different animation style and that's why he looks different because that doesn't work with their designs. He's an entirely different truck with an entirely different transformation scheme. The only explanation for that is that he scanned a different vehicle mode but why? What possible in story reason could there be to scan another vehicle mode? There is none, so logically it can't be the same character. If they were the same character then either Prime would have the same vehicle mode and transformation scheme as Rescue Bots or Rescue Bots would have the same vehicle mode and transformation scheme as Prime. Because they're not the same vehicle then either they're not the same character or there has to be an in story reason for him to scan a new alt mode. Sense there is no in story reason for the new alt mode then it has to be the other one.

The creator said they were going to be the same continuity but they didn't make them that way. Again, this is what subject to change means. The interview took place before Rescue Bots even aired. It's not what showed up in the finished product so it's simply an abandoned idea. It was going to be the same continuity but it is not the same continuity.

unlike a lot of people I believe in the aligned family thingy so overlook things that are diff. Hell I bet the people who designed the transfomrers in rb weren't aware that rb and prime were aligned so I overlook. kinda strange though but what the creators say. But yeah the only reason why jeff said rb and prime were in the same universe was so it wouldn't get confusing having 2 transformers show with 2 diff backgrounds. Hey idk personnaly if they are the same or not but I would love to see the prime team in griffon rock Lol

You could say the same thing about all the IDW stuff. So much of it is different styles and whatnot, but it's all the same universe for the most part. Same goes for FoC and WfC. Designs can change between shows and games. If the only argument you have right now is a difference of styles, and yes that includes how Optimus transforms, then you're not putting up a good one. Part of the design thing is cause the toys came out first, then they made the show. The kept the designs similar to the toys except for a couple of things (mostly head designs). And considering they changed the designs for the show, we never saw Optimus's vehicle mode in the show, so it could be a long nose. Things can change between things, but still be in the same universe.

There was also an interview (it's on my phone, don't remember where I got it from) that with Jeff and Steve about the two being in the same universe and wanting to do a crossover with them.

You're only complaint is how Optimus looks and that's it when it comes to connecting the two shows...other than art styles, I see no reason why the two can't be in the same universe, especially when it comes to story.

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Originally Posted by Heatwave; What do human children put on their fingers anyways? Last time I let one climb on me, I was sticky for days!