Cybertron's Population

IaconStargazer · 05-05-2012, 03:35 PM

I'm guessing that in its heyday, Cybertron's population was probably at least a few billion (depending on how physically large the planet actually is in a certain continuity), seeing how the majority of it was urban in structure and therefore had a great population density.

But when it comes to present-day, during-the-war stuff, I'd say the population ranges anywhere between a few million to absolutely zero (again, depending on what continuity you're referring to).

MaxxieOD · 05-05-2012, 03:42 PM

The planet may be larger in circumference, but if ya noticed (at least in the games), the planet is fairly hollow as well, so the gravity could be very similar (maybe a bit stronger) than Earth's.

Anyways, I'm sure they had a booming population before the war (heck, they even populated a few other planets too), but afterwards, they've been dwindling in numbers and they're pretty low now compared to how they used to be. The current population (as others have said) on Cybertron right now? Probably zero, since there's no way for them to sustain life (tho the Insecticons and scraplets seem to do fine).

FanimusMaximus · 05-05-2012, 04:18 PM

It depends on when in history it is for Cybertron.

Moonlight1102 · 05-05-2012, 04:20 PM

Movieverse - 0

Animated - 100,000

NEST SOLDIER · 05-05-2012, 06:05 PM

One issue that the movieverse doesn't make clear is if the planet is artificial in nature, or simply a large body that is transformed by the All Spark.

Going by Hasbro's statement that the planet is the size of Saturn, if it were artificial, then there would be no core to generate a magnetic field or gravity; unless they built one just for this purpose.

Another point of view is that if the planet is indeed a real planet that is simply transformed, then there would be a natural magnetic field and gravity produced by the spin of the planet's core.

I tend to lean towards it being an artificial world, with Vector Sigma as it's core( as seen in the WFC game). I also believe that it's populace isn't completely gone, but greatly reduced by the war, and refugees who have escaped to seek shelter.

Verno · 05-05-2012, 07:19 PM

So if the population post Great War (in any universe) is a shadow of what it once was, how do you repopulate Cybertron?

Through the use of the Matrix? (In a BW universe) Would that not simply create new Autobots/Maximals? How do you create Predacons? And who would want to be born Predacon? As they're born into a lower class system it seems, and looked down on for something they had no part in.

MaxxieOD · 05-05-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Verno

So if the population post Great War (in any universe) is a shadow of what it once was, how do you repopulate Cybertron?

Through the use of the Matrix? (In a BW universe) Would that not simply create new Autobots/Maximals? How do you create Predacons? And who would want to be born Predacon? As they're born into a lower class system it seems, and looked down on for something they had no part in.

Now you're getting into a subject no one knows the exact answer for (and possible answers vary depending on universe). It's hard to say considering you never see the end of the war or afterwards in any series so who knows.

General Magnus · 05-05-2012, 07:34 PM

For the war to lasted the time it lasted (millions of years), I´d say Cybertron needs to have billions of transformers.

Verno · 05-05-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxxieOD

Now you're getting into a subject no one knows the exact answer for (and possible answers vary depending on universe). It's hard to say considering you never see the end of the war or afterwards in any series so who knows.

I'm happy to throw around some theories.

Verno · 05-05-2012, 08:49 PM

The way I see it, from a BW universe kind of history:

There were two ways to give life to a Transformer.

1. From the Matrix in a Prime's chest.

2. From Vector Sigma.

The key to Vector Sigma was destroyed by Commander Silverbolt back in G1, so all access to new troops was now limited to the Matrix.

After the end of the Great War and the signing of the Pax Cybertronia, Cybertron needed to be repopulated. Two facilities were set up:

1. The MATRIX (The Maximal Activation Transferring Recycling and Infusion eXchange)

and

2. The PIT (The Predacon Infusion Terminal)

They were linked to Vector Sigma, and using a shell program of sorts, known as The Oracle, they hacked into Vector Sigma and allowed the Maximals and Predacons to release new Sparks into the world.

The process was overseen by the Maximals, as they didn't want control of the flow of Sparks to be controlled by the Predacons so they couldn't build up a new army.

Or something like that.

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Verno Beast Wars Collector Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 544 Location: Tasmania Collection Count: 100+	The way I see it, from a BW universe kind of history: There were two ways to give life to a Transformer. 1. From the Matrix in a Prime's chest. 2. From Vector Sigma. The key to Vector Sigma was destroyed by Commander Silverbolt back in G1, so all access to new troops was now limited to the Matrix. After the end of the Great War and the signing of the Pax Cybertronia, Cybertron needed to be repopulated. Two facilities were set up: 1. The MATRIX (The Maximal Activation Transferring Recycling and Infusion eXchange) and 2. The PIT (The Predacon Infusion Terminal) They were linked to Vector Sigma, and using a shell program of sorts, known as The Oracle, they hacked into Vector Sigma and allowed the Maximals and Predacons to release new Sparks into the world. The process was overseen by the Maximals, as they didn't want control of the flow of Sparks to be controlled by the Predacons so they couldn't build up a new army. Or something like that. The *TVC* Presents TransWarp: Csirac - Issue #1

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IaconStargazer Constructicon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 770 Location: Indiana Collection Count: somewhere around 100-200	I'm guessing that in its heyday, Cybertron's population was probably at least a few billion (depending on how physically large the planet actually is in a certain continuity), seeing how the majority of it was urban in structure and therefore had a great population density. But when it comes to present-day, during-the-war stuff, I'd say the population ranges anywhere between a few million to absolutely zero (again, depending on what continuity you're referring to).

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General Magnus President Epic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,411 Location: Portugal Collection Count: 390	For the war to lasted the time it lasted (millions of years), I´d say Cybertron needs to have billions of transformers.