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10-28-2009, 10:57 PM
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#71 | | Tournament Master Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,542 Location: South Beloit, Illinois Collection Count: 250+ News Credits: 1 | Quote:
Originally Posted by myhobby  by the by, if you need to quote more than one person at a time, go through the tread and click on "multiquote" on every post you want to quote. | Who is this directed towards??
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10-28-2009, 11:20 PM
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#72 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 | Agreed
I am not "above anybody" the complete opposite as a matter of fact I
I have no money because I am a person of princibles. I do not have a car but I am percisestant enough...to work out problems in a way I can understand then I can present them in a way somebody else can understand and see how they see the raw data.
Some people can look at something long enough and it clicks
I basically made a tree of cybertronian life for "discusion" purposes. I just started with lots of raw data. Overtime I plan on consolidating and putting things in general terms.
I am not here to "win a post" but to discuss what I did and how I can make it a better product. I used math (a universal language) to arrange things in a way I could arrange it logically. From there I can arrange it in a more human pleasing way.
I am not a mason nor am I a "mathelite" I know 52009 is a prime number that makes me a geek.
I know for a fact that I can learn anything from anybody at anytime.
I am here to discuss what I did and gradually make it a better product.
When I buy that diagram program I can put it in trucknotmunky terms... | |
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10-28-2009, 11:36 PM
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#73 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 | Quote:
Originally Posted by myhobby just because some people don't like math, doesn't mean that others don't find it interesting.
i must say, that was an interesting read. i did get lost once or twice, but a careful reread found the word or concept i had missed.
it's interesting how, even if the authors didn't originally conceive the math, somehow the number thirteen has significance.
i look forward to seeing the diagram.
stop yo' hatin'! ya'll get this tread locked!
by the by, if you need to quote more than one person at a time, go through the tread and click on "multiquote" on every post you want to quote. | Thanks I am on an iPod Touch do I take the easy way out sometimes.
Yeah I already have it scetched out on paper I tried excel in a tab sort of view
I figured out how I can represent the complex data with the limited resources of the program. Using all shapes avilable I can represent all 13 primes - with only a circle, a square, a triangle, and a diamond - using 5 different colors - I will see how it works out...
It is time for bed.
I probably should look at the obscure TF site for any straglers I had missed.
Got any ideas that don't fall into the catagories? Let me know.
Roller was a hard fit. | |
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10-29-2009, 01:09 AM
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#74 | | I voted for Super_Megatron and all I got was this stupid user title. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,149 Location: The Hammer, Ontario News Credits: 1 | Next step: Numerology to find the word of Primus in the scripts for Beast Wars! | |
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10-29-2009, 01:48 AM
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#75 | | News Credits: -13 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 361 Collection Count: Dunno | While there are some interesting ideas, I do have difficulty with the quantifying of moral concepts such as 'Good' and 'Evil' into absolutes. However, Transformer products have often touched on this in the past so there is precedent for it. ("Evil Decepticons" - yes, they're all evil).
I admit, I don't quite comprehend a lot of what is written in the original post, as it quite overwhelming, and perhaps a little unclear in structure. But it is definitely an impressive exploration.
To suggest simple patterns and structure to form and abilities sounds quite mechanical, and can seem somewhat justified considering the exposure of tech-specs, but it seems to me, that speculative values of variables, may be adjusted to force a predetermined result in order to sustain the sequence. Which is fine, your not trying to establish a Golden Rule, or Law, you're just proposing a hypothetical relationship, or a unique filing system.
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10-30-2009, 12:44 PM
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#76 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 | Quote:
Originally Posted by The Madness While there are some interesting ideas, I do have difficulty with the quantifying of moral concepts such as 'Good' and 'Evil' into absolutes. However, Transformer products have often touched on this in the past so there is precedent for it. ("Evil Decepticons" - yes, they're all evil).
I admit, I don't quite comprehend a lot of what is written in the original post, as it quite overwhelming, and perhaps a little unclear in structure. But it is definitely an impressive exploration.
To suggest simple patterns and structure to form and abilities sounds quite mechanical, and can seem somewhat justified considering the exposure of tech-specs, but it seems to me, that speculative values of variables, may be adjusted to force a predetermined result in order to sustain the sequence. Which is fine, your not trying to establish a Golden Rule, or Law, you're just proposing a hypothetical relationship, or a unique filing system.
It just needs more Chaos. | It is turning out pretty well, I am rather impressed...
I D/L Instaviz today and I have already took the thought process one step closer to reality
I took the core concepts and arranged them into 5 "Major" Kingdoms which are each divided into Internal and External Processes
Alt Modes 1 Mecha, 29 Beast
Energy 13 Manipulators, 7 Efficient
Mode 3 Multi, 5 Combo
Nano 17 Mini, 31 Nebulon
Skin 11 Armor, 23 Plating
I changed 2 Clones, 37 Giants, 19 Fems all to spot mutations because there has not really been a line of just "Giants, Fems, or Clones (Vehicons don't have sparks, nor do the WWI SS Clones)"
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11-07-2009, 07:33 PM
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#77 | | holdin up cybertron Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 181 Location: in your hardrive Collection Count: ???? | 
reading into it a little much are we? | |
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11-07-2009, 08:50 PM
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#78 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 44 | Although I suck @ math I think your effort Rawks!
But I sorta agree with the critique numbers can be made to fit anything. | |
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11-07-2009, 09:09 PM
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#79 | | Constructicon Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 728 | You have an interesting idea of what a "proof" is.
And I hope everyone stops saying they don't understand it because they're not good at math.
There is no math in this. Numbers are not inherently mathematics. Especially in the way they're being used here.
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11-07-2009, 10:33 PM
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#80 | | Vehicon Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Australia Collection Count: Not Sure | Its an interesting theory, but I'm sure that it played no part in the design of the Transformers. Way back in the day I don't think the original 13 even played a part cos it was years before the Primus/Unicron thing eventuated. And numbers can "prove" anything if they are played with long enough
Thanks for the read though
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