New Series of Transformers needed.

Shelfwarmercon · 06-11-2009, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SMOG

While I don't think anyone's going to argue with "fun and challenging", I don't think "G1 free" is necessarily the way to go. No matter how you slice it, G1 is the essential, original core of Transformers, and if you step too far away from the source material, it kind of defeats the purpose of making a new "Transformers" series. I'm fine with focusing on a new cast of characters, tackling new ideas, but there are some aspects that should be observed.

I'd rather see new stories that can build on the old continuity and history, than an umpteenth "fresh alternate take" on the same old thing like we've been getting... which usually lasts a season or two, and then disappears.

zmog

Can't be helped, really. Interest in these toys drop off when the children get older, and the life cycle of a toyline has gotten shorter the last several years because kids just have so many options. Hasbro has to release new stuff to keep things fresh.

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Originally Posted by eisen

and so we go back full circle: gundam's been doing it for years and it's still going strong.

Yep. A typical Gundam TV series lasts, what, two or three seasons at most?

eisen · 06-11-2009, 05:03 AM

weird, one season there is like 50 episodes, which is an equivalent to two seasons of american animated shows?

qwerty · 06-11-2009, 06:25 AM

how about a series with NO HUMANS, they become nothing but burdens on the TFs....

Blitz. · 06-11-2009, 07:19 AM

strange Old Snake and Dr Arcavale (or what ever the hell his name was) were some of my favs

Frankly I think Humans add an much needed element... but children are not the way to go. G1 kinda got it right with I guess people in their late teens early 20's and they actually had skills that were of some use unlike the armada kids who's whole job was to get captured in some way

Dinobot Snarl · 06-11-2009, 07:40 AM

How about a one that focuses on cybertron with various chacters spotlighted. Mission oriented one, where prime sends bots on missions, and it follows their outcomes!

I want to see the G1 fliers weird cybertronian vehicles. I thought they were extremely imaginative!

kidnicky · 06-11-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sizzle

I guess I'm missing the days of Masterforce, Victory and the like where the story actually moved on beyond and didn't include G1 cast members or namesakes. I thought those two years were brilliant, and I wonder if that can't be recaptured in an American series, or do we always have to couch the stories in familiar conceits and names?

Hasbro demands the namesakes and such. When Car Robots aired in Japan,the characters were not Optimus,Grimlock,etc. Hasbro wanted the names changed for the U.S. version,as they feel the original names are more marketable.

Ash from Carolina · 06-11-2009, 12:43 PM

I think that Avatar is pretty good example of what could be that would appeal to both younger and older crowds. For the kids Aang does a lot of the fun things they would do if they had those sorts of powers and he's fun loving kid at heart. For the more adult viewer there are some heavy topics like the other characters pushing the innocent Aang to kill the Fire Lord when Aang thinks it would be wrong.

The things that cements it all together for the young to the young at heart is that the characters are so compelling you want to see more of them and the story doesn't neatly tie up everything every episode so there is a compelling reason to watch all the episodes.

Something with really compelling Transformers characters and story tell then you don't have to worry about the art style of the show.

Human Beastbox · 06-11-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowcat

Personally, I would love a Japanese produced Transformers show if it had a consistent level of writing and animation. Shows like Code Geass and Eureka Seven can keep up excellent writing and animation for up to 50 episodes, so I don't think Japan is incapable of carrying the franchise.

THIS.

The recent Japanese produced TF shows were bad in general, regardless of where they came from. Simply no excuse. There are some incredible anime series out there--so why not Transformers?

nkelsch · 06-11-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Beastbox

THIS.

The recent Japanese produced TF shows were bad in general, regardless of where they came from. Simply no excuse. There are some incredible anime series out there--so why not Transformers?

I liked armada... Personally 3D Cell shading ruined it for me. I could accept Transformers 'anime' from an animation aspect if it was actually drawn and not cell-shaded.

But I think the issue is, things are best in their native language and one thing we lose in translation is voice actors and dialog written for a native language population. I like shows written for and originally voiced by English voice actors. I like Anime written for and originally voiced for japanese voice actors. The trick is when we have a show written for Japanese voice actors and japanese audiences, dubbed by Canadian voice actor using a script that may not translate fully brought to the US for US viewers. I think the series lose something when this happens. Things that 'work' for one audience or language doesn't necessarily work for others.

Not saying it can't be done, I just don't think TFs will ever warrant the quality effort needed to make an anime series great and dubbed well for all audiences.

jostru · 06-11-2009, 02:14 PM

I agree. They definitely need a new series.

PS: Hi, I'm new btw.