Was Armada/Energon Unicron the same Unicron from the original movie?

Just a little question I wanna ask...

I heard, I cannot say it's abseloutely correct. After Unicron died in the first movie Unicron spark/soul managed to survive and travel into an alternate timeline and universe that is different from the G1 Universe. Could this explain why Unicron in Armada was essentially the same as TFTM 87' Unicron? Or are they different?

We know that Unicron is a power warlord, and a god cannot be destroyed. I'm assuming he can travel through any distance past or future, and can travel through any alternate continuity. Which leads to the Blackhole in Cybertron, considering Unicron's spark consists of dark matter; which is a common cosmic matter in the universe. Which is why all future timelines did not exist, since the Blackhole was an obstacle of anything occuring within any future timeframes to ever happen. You can also say the same thing about other dimensions.

yet anything you can imagine... could... exist. Also for each decision you make you could creat an alternative universe causing a split or new universe to be create... and decide is descended from 2 words in latin meaning to kill. so you could be right and wrong all at the same time
(welcome to quantum physics)

According to marvel comics unicron has the power to move into alternate universes. This protects him when he's about to be destroyed.

Or locate new copies of galvatron to help him destroy this universes matrix.
whatever he wants to do. Because that's unicron.

Armada unicron is the same unicron as g1, and traveled between the g1 universe and armada.

so....if if theres only one unicron over multiverses, can primus be applied the same way? im not so sure abt that because each conti has its own cybertron. why dont the multi primus just gang up and beat up on unicron?

The way I see it, they are absolute existences. Primus / Cybertron is a central point, existing simultaneously throughout many realities. He exists in all realities at the same time, but also exists in none. The various Cybertrons are extensions of him, not him himself.
I see him as extradimensional, capable of arriving on a Cybertron when he is needed to intervene, otherwise using his network of sub-computers like Vector Sigma to direct things when needed.

Unicron on the other hand just exists in one universe in his entirety. He simply jumps, universe to universe, as needed. That's how he is frequently able to act freely and destroy Cybertrons, because I see Primus as being much weakened from maintaining all his simultaneous existences.

(I hope that makes sense!)

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just read the back of the unicron battles wording: transported across time and space......so if he can do this to normal F'ed transformers that he picks to "serve" him it would suffice that he skips from one universe plane to another when it suits him.

Depends which bible you adhere to.

Comics he is a god of chaos, as he is in armada-cybertron ( I reference cybertron for his new tank ship mode). As long as Yin, or hate exists, he will exist. As he's part of the natural order of opposites. Yin to primus' yang. Destruction to creation, death to life, or in simplest terms, black to white. He is the complete inversion to what primus is barring the cosmic aspects.

G1 toon, and Japanese story, he's a spark who won't die, but his initial body was organic made. Primacron built him with his assistant the oracle who later becomes vector sigma and the matrix.

Welcome to the continuity nightmare, pick your poison.

Now as a god, he can be omniversal, omniscient, and omnipresent, BUT that doesn't mean each body was created in the same manner. Just because he's omniversal doesn't mean his origin is the same in each timeline, just that each timeline has a body for his spark to inhabit. Ditto to primus.
Omnipresent = he exists in all timeframes of said timeline (or at least his spark does)
Omniversal = he exists in all timelines
Omniscient = he sees all

These issues could really only be solved by an omnipresent spark, that even in being destroyed in the original movie carried on just fine without his body, but needing a new form to inhabit in that universe to do anything other than minor things like rebuilding starscream.

So basicly he has a form for every universe, whether it's a ship, planetformer, or cube, he still has a place for his power/spark to spill over into for said universe when he pays his visit. Until then, various things must make his notice for his form in said universe to 'awaken'. G1 is moot as it basicly is what the rest splintered off of so to speak. This also explains his 'hibernations' in various universes. Including his stasis in armada as a smaller moon.

So essentially, even in G1 toonverse, even though Primacron built him. Unicrons Omniversal spark gave it power. Now unless they create some bit of fiction that explains both primus and unicron were assistants to primacron, who's sparks gained in power over the eons to become cosmic beings. That's about the only way to sum it up, yin and yang, just various origins for said universes to become receivers of said power.

Essentially he's a universal truth, like primus. Creation vs Destruction, hate vs. love, if you destroy one, you destroy the other, or cause a complete and utter universe nullifying mess... Or blackhole. You can't have one, without the other. Even in movie-verse, I expect some form of opposite to the allspark, the creator of life on that cybertron. Movie-verse for now, kinda sidesteps the issue by having the allspark be a TMA like construct. (2001: a space odyssey movie/book, and the subsequent books. Though even Unicron can be written in much the same still.)

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Wasn't Unicron also blamed for the destruction of the Gobot universe? Maybe Robo Force too.

Um... *raises hands* sparks don't exist in the G1 cartoon.