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Old 01-31-2008, 12:01 AM   #21
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I'm wondering. In Micron Legend, why does Convoy release his Matrix before fighting Megatron at episode 52?
Is Grand Convoy the same Convoy from Micron Legend? If so, how did he change? He does have a different voice actor from the previous series.
In Galaxy Force, why was the Chip Square in the Atlantis ship instead of any of the other three ancient ships?
I'm guessing he didn't want the matrix in Megatron's hands.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:41 AM   #22
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I'm wondering. In Micron Legend, why does Convoy release his Matrix before fighting Megatron at episode 52?
AFAIK in ep 51 (I think) Doubleface tells Convoy that without the weight of the thing he carries inside his chest, he'd have been no different from Megatron. In ep 52 Megatron dares Convoy to release his hatred and fight him as a Transformer, not as a commander of Cybertrons. That's when he takes Matrix out.

To me the final episodes of Armada and Micron Legend were very different. ML ep 52 was filled with rather interesting dialogues between Convoy and Megatron. Armada was more straightfoward, I liked it, too, though

I can't say anything about Energon/Super Link, because I lost interest in Energon pretty quickly.


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Old 01-31-2008, 11:13 AM   #23
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Ahh, that explains a lot to me. Because that bit about Prime not fighting as leader of the Autobots WAS in the Armada dub, but the part about the Matrix being the only difference between him and Megatron *wasn't*. Yeah, that makes a heck of a lot more sense.
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Takara retroactively placed Galaxy Force into their Micron Legend/Superlink timeline via their website:

http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html

Hover your mouse over the tabs labeled "Chronicle 2" (in Japanese, of course...they're at the bottom).
Thanks for the link! Now, Does this new time line means that Micron, Superlink and Galaxy Force are included in the original G1 Timeline?

Now I have to understand that Galaxy Force Galaxy Convoy is a new upgrade of Superlink Grand Convoy? Is he a new character?

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Thanks for the link! Now, Does this new time line means that Micron, Superlink and Galaxy Force are included in the original G1 Timeline?
No, Takara broke it up into two seperate timelines. The first is the G1/RID/BW timeline, while the second is the ML/SL/GF timeline (labeled "Chronicle 1" and "Chronicle 2", appropriately).
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Old 02-03-2008, 07:36 PM   #26
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AFAIK in ep 51 (I think) Doubleface tells Convoy that without the weight of the thing he carries inside his chest, he'd have been no different from Megatron. In ep 52 Megatron dares Convoy to release his hatred and fight him as a Transformer, not as a commander of Cybertrons. That's when he takes Matrix out.

To me the final episodes of Armada and Micron Legend were very different. ML ep 52 was filled with rather interesting dialogues between Convoy and Megatron. Armada was more straightfoward, I liked it, too, though

I can't say anything about Energon/Super Link, because I lost interest in Energon pretty quickly.
That's extremely informative. I'm still really trying to figure out the final events of Micron Legend. What other interesting dialogues were there between Convoy and Megatron? What other plot differences between Micron Legend and Armada were there?
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I prefer Hasbro's Version it was easier to understand in Cybertron,It's hard to find Subtitles for Japanese Shows.

If The Takara Continuity said Cybertron isn't part of the unicron Trilogy then why does Rad,Carlos and Alexis and Kicker appear in the last episode of Gaklaxy force but it cybertron it was cut out,Hasbro says it 's part of Armada and Energon,It should be the other way around.

Still Cybertron/Galaxy force> Armada and Energon.

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I have some questions too. In the very last minute of Armada/Micron Legend Unicron is seemingly active but in the very start of Energon/ Superlink Unicron is in critical condition. Is there an explanation for this?

In Galaxy force in episode 34, where did that black fog surrounding Master Megatron come from?
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That's extremely informative. I'm still really trying to figure out the final events of Micron Legend. What other interesting dialogues were there between Convoy and Megatron? What other plot differences between Micron Legend and Armada were there?
In ML ep 52, "the light and the darkness" is the recurring theme of their dialogue.

Megs; This (fight) made me realize, you and I are the same... We are both Transformers who love to fight.
Convoy; We Transformers are indeed born soldiers, we exist to fight. But I still want to see the light, even in the middle of the war. The winners don't become righteous, righteous ones are the winners.
Megs; Very well...just remember, you only could reach that conclusion while in the war.

And when Megatron disappears inside Unicron he tells Convoy that he will be his Nemesis again in the next lifetime, as light cannot exist without the darkness.

(My translation is very poor, so I hope you can find fansubs )
There are some more (small) difference between Armada and Micron Legend, but I have to think about it. I haven't watched Armada that many times.

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IIf The Takara Continuity said Cybertron isn't part of the unicron Trilogy then why does Rad,Carlos and Alexis and Kicker appear in the last episode of Gaklaxy force but it cybertron it was cut out,Hasbro says it 's part of Armada and Energon,It should be the other way around.
I thought it was other way around?

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In Galaxy force in episode 34, where did that black fog surrounding Master Megatron come from?
There were many unexplained things in GF like the black fog or planet X, and what they did in Japan was to include bits of info about those mysteries in the booklets which came with the DVDs. You wouldn't know unless you buy expensive DVDs
The black fog is also explained in one of those booklets I hear. I'll have to find out now that you mention it...


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If The Takara Continuity said Cybertron isn't part of the unicron Trilogy then why does Rad,Carlos and Alexis and Kicker appear in the last episode of Gaklaxy force but it cybertron it was cut out,Hasbro says it 's part of Armada and Energon,It should be the other way around.
You've got that backwards. The scene of Rad, Carlos, Alexis and Kicker WASN'T in Galaxy Force - it was added in for Cybertron.

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I have some questions too. In the very last minute of Armada/Micron Legend Unicron is seemingly active but in the very start of Energon/ Superlink Unicron is in critical condition. Is there an explanation for this?
That's due to a variety of things conflicting. It was always Hasbro's intention that Unicron be deactivated at the end of Armada, and that would be his status at the start of Energon. Simple enough. In ignoring this, the Japanese production staff created this disconnect, but it's since been hammed into shape by a timeline on Takara's site that pins it on the destruction of Alpha Q's planet, which Scorponok blew up in Unicron's face, knocking him offline. It's not especially clear if this was the intention of the Japanese writers originally (it's really not clear from the show itself WHEN the destruction of Alpha Q's planet occurs), but there we go.

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In Galaxy force in episode 34, where did that black fog surrounding Master Megatron come from?
See, this is where Cybertron wins, where it was identified as the "shadow spark" of Unicron (ie; the power of Unicron in Megatron's armour).
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