I hate CGI, but if your going to make a CGI Transformers movie,

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Galvatron1, May 26, 2007.

  1. Draven

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    Speak for yourself; I loved the line from the first figure I bought.
     
  2. BeastWars 4ever

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    Nice for a cartoon.
     
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    Which is rather sad really: That an original, innovative, creative piece of work like BW, with excellent stories & voice work, only came to the fore after some cameos from a technically (and I think, artistically) inferior series made years before.

    Myself, I was hooked from the start.
     
  4. Valkysas

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    I was hooked the second I saw "transformers" in the title screen of the preview episodes that aired before the toyline launched.
     
  5. Chaos Muffin

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    Bay's work blows anything I could ever make so Im going to enjoy it.

    TF's have been there & done that so I can't see why this movie is so inferior to so many. If we can survive human shelled Pretenders then we can handle anything :lol  z
     
  6. Jarodimus

    Jarodimus the guy with that scan Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

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    I'm with the "looks nice, but would never work for live action" camp. I love my G1, I really do. But for live action, Hasbro, ILM, DreamWorks, and Bay are right on target.

    Also, all the people who accuse the movie bots of morphing during their transformations need to have a look at that CG G1 montage.
     
  7. smkspy

    smkspy Remember true fans

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    I wouldn't mind an all CGI G1 movie ala TMNT. That would be pretty cool, but the Live action movie is not going to change its aesthetics now and nor change them in the sequels. This is what we're stuck with for the next ten years for better or worse.
     
  8. Rodimus

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    I'll speak for myself AND the few people I've met in real life that I've discussed beast wars with when I say none of us said we liked it. I saw the first season and it was pure garbage. The CGI was horrific. The Slap Stick loony toon style humore with the sky wistles and what not was silly and even more immature than any of the comedic moments I ever saw before. For example, how do you add a Rubber Ducky and a Rhino Fart into a Transformers action cartoon? That's just rediculous and let's not forget every other Waspinator moment. So right there I just don't understand how people can call Beast Wars "The most mature TF show ever." Obviously some are just looking back on it nostalgically (it's been 11 years now) just like some G1 fans are accused of. The Beast organic look was not transformers and like I mentioned before, if something is so different than what you liked, how can you then in your heart accept it as cannon and enjoy it? It's not the same thing so it makes it hard. By that same principal, like others have mentioned, It wasn't until I saw The Agenda episodes that I actually began to somewhat enjoy Beast Wars. They were brilliant with the continuity tie in and that writing (how Dinobot was handled) is the major reason fans started to warm up to it.

    But you guys bringing up Beast Wars with my last post basically made my point for me. It took a tie in for it to finally get accepted by original fans. I originally checked it out because of the "Transformers" part of the name but I just got confused and dissatisfied as is really had nothing to do with Transformers up until The Agenda. I almost gave up on the show until those episodes came about. Seriously, why do you think there is such a division with people that bash Beast Wars and then those that get all defensive and bash G1 in the same token?

    You gave a great example for my point in my previous post. It took alot for Beast Wars to get accepted.

    And why should something have to be that hard to accept? It's just not logical. Being Entertained is not supposed to be hard work.
     
  9. Rodimus

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    :I'm actually suprised they didn't go that route for the movie! :lol  Murphy said they needed to give human actors more screen time to save budget!
     
  10. Shaun_C

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    You're asking the wrong people. That's a question to ask yourself and not the board members.

    Why? Because if one can accept Beast Wars or the ILM designs, that's on the shoulders of the fan and no one else.

    The majority of the fansbase can accept them because they realize that Generation 1 started Transformers...But it doesn't DEFINE Transformers

    But for some G1 defines Transformers. So basically it's up to that fan whether they'll lighten their hold on the reigns and give the other stuff a chance or not.
     
  11. Vangelus

    Vangelus Long Live the New Flesh Moderator Content Contributor

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    Surely you understand that your example applies in reverse (liking BW) to just as many people here though, right?

    You're coming across as a bit "because me and the few people I spoke to didn't like it, it wasn't good", and that's really not aces considering how I could plainly state "me and the few people I spoke to who were all fans from the beginning of G1 enjoyed Beast Wars from its debut".
     
  12. Valkysas

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    Rodimus, quit trying to speak for anyone but yourself.

    BW was an immediate nd huge hit. So obviously most people liked it right away.
     
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    Beast wars got me back into transformers. BW Megatron blowing a sleeping Optimus Prime's face off? Cinema magic.

    And if being entertained is so easy, why the heck have so many movie makers this summer spent so many millions on movies that have failed to do so for me? (read: Spiderman 3, POTC 3, pretty-much-any-movie-I've-seen-this-summer-that-wasn't-Hot-Fuzz)

    As for the posted CGI, that's laughably awful. We had a transformers movie in that style. It was in the 80s. Give something new a chance. You never know, you might like it. And if you don't... who cares? There will be more and different transformers that will come after that wont be like the movie. Change is good. Without change we'd still have brick-formers with no articulation that turned into vague approximations of pseudovehicles.