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12-03-2006, 08:25 PM
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#1 | | Chiang Kai Shek is reborn Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,639 Location: New Jersey Collection Count: Hundreds. | Here's a fine yakkitywho Could Hotrod open the Matrix because he was the chosen one, or because it was the darkest hour? Would Optimus also be a "chosen one" since he opened the Matrix during the Hate Plague? |
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12-03-2006, 08:40 PM
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#2 | | I am AMAZON! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,347 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Collection Count: 323 | Chosen one. Notice that it glowed like crazy when he touched it after Optimus died. It didn't do that for anybody else.
And as far as Op opening it after he came back, I've always assumed that the lock was a one-time thing, and it could be opened pretty easily after Rodimus initially unlocked it. |
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12-03-2006, 08:46 PM
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#4 | | Kitbashed Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,843 Location: Database Error | The matrix was desperate, It ws inside Unicron, and being worn as a necklace by Galvatron. At that point, I think it would have let just about anyone open it. Imagine if Wheelie had gotten there, first. |
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12-03-2006, 08:49 PM
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#5 | | Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,180 Location: Cincy Collection Count: 90% less than before! | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Omegus Prime Are we sure the glowing thing was even because it was Hot Rod or because he was the first one to touch it when Optimus relinquished it? | Good question...I always just assumed the glow was for dramatic effect, but, Prime does say something to the effect of "one day an autobot shall rise from our ranks and use the power of the matrix to light our darkest hour". I tend to think that Rodimus was able to open it because he was the chosen one and not necessarily because it was the darkest hour. Things looked pretty dark just before Magnus got dusted, and he wasn't able to open it then.
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Originally Posted by Greyryder The matrix was desperate, It ws inside Unicron, and being worn as a necklace by Galvatron. At that point, I think it would have let just about anyone open it. Imagine if Wheelie had gotten there, first. | Wheelie say I open Matrix today! Sig Removed |
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12-03-2006, 08:50 PM
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#6 | | Chiang Kai Shek is reborn Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,639 Location: New Jersey Collection Count: Hundreds. | Thus darkest. |
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12-03-2006, 09:09 PM
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#7 | | Generation All Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5,604 Location: Orlando, FL Collection Count: 5000+ News Credits: 3 | My take on that has always been that the Matrix:
a) knew it was time to release its power to stop Unicron
b) knew that it was now in the possession of the chosen Autobot
Both of those criteria had to be satisfied (right time, right person) in order for the Matrix to release its power. When Hot Rod caught the Matrix (when Prime dropped it at his death), there was clearly a reaction from it - but because the time wasn't right, the release of the Matrix effluence did not take place, nor did the change to Rodimus Prime.
Also, the Matrix knew that it had to physically upgrade the chosen one if he was going to have the capacity to stop Galvatron, so the upgrade to Rodimus Prime took place. A point folks seem to miss in that sequence is that Hot Rod had *completely* transformed into Rodimus Prime before he even began the process of opening the Matrix. So it's also worth mentioning that Hot Rod was not turned into Rodimus Prime as a result of opening the Matrix, but the change took place corresponding to the Matrix deciding to allow him to release its power and succeed to leadership of the Autobots. |
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12-03-2006, 09:09 PM
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#8 | | Autobot Brainmaster Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,733 Location: Virginia Collection Count: Enough to re-populate Cybertron! WOT? News Credits: 1 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Greyryder The matrix was desperate, It was inside Unicron, and being worn as a necklace by Galvatron. At that point, I think it would have let just about anyone open it. Imagine if Wheelie had gotten there, first. |
What once upon a time Optimus Prime said to Wheelie: "NO!"
Anyway, why did the Matrix glow when Hot Rod first grabbed it?
The Matrix was happy it didn't hit the floor.
Seriously, I think only a "Prime" can open the Matrix
On a side note, Takara would like us to believe that Ultra Magnus glowed briefly when he took on the Matrix, hence Shining Yellow Ultra Magnus. The Matrix knew Magnus was a loser, not a Prime, so he couldn't open it.  - Backscatter "Megatron failed. I lived...but changed. Since then, I feel only hatred ..." |
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12-03-2006, 09:13 PM
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#9 | | Fuzzy Forever Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,546 Location: Ontario Collection Count: fasdfsdaf News Credits: 1 | Look, Hot Rod's fingers fit in the holes perfectly. He and Thunderwing are the only two in the history of Cybertron to have the exact right shaped fingers.
I'm serious, I really think that's it.
u mad? |
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12-03-2006, 09:16 PM
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#10 | | Chiang Kai Shek is reborn Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,639 Location: New Jersey Collection Count: Hundreds. | Then what about Prime? WHAT A TWIST! |
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