What exactly makes a Transformer a Transformer... |
09-01-2006, 12:37 AM
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#1 | | tells it like it is. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,443 Location: Minneapolis Collection Count: Too many to count | What exactly makes a Transformer a Transformer...
and not just a transforming robot? I've seen the whole "The movie designs aren't Transformers, they're just transforming robots" argument more and more, let's break it down and decide exactly what's the difference. Transformers vs. TRs.
They both transform, obviously, and are robots.
Real Transformers are living things, and not piloted like some TRs.
Transformers have "sparks". TRs - ?
Transformers have names that are usually reused in one form or another. TRs - ?
Transformers come from Cybertron. TRs - no.
Transformers have two main factions at war with each other. TRs - sometimes.
Transformers have a loose history/storyline that gets rebooted from time to time. TRs - depends on which ones.
By now, you know where I'm going with this. Unless I'm missing the point (which is entirely possible), the movie Transformers are Transformers by definition. What, exactly, makes them NOT Transformers in your opinion? Let's try and discuss this with some civility and insights. | 
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09-01-2006, 12:43 AM
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#3 | | tells it like it is. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,443 Location: Minneapolis Collection Count: Too many to count | I can't think of a witty retort for that, so I'll just call you an idiot. 
I shouldn't have to tell you I'm just kidding, so I won't.  | |
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09-01-2006, 12:48 AM
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#4 | | Team Laser Explosion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,050 Location: Norman, OK Collection Count: 1000+ | If it doesn't match someone's OPINION, then it's not a Transformer. Since it seems everyone has a different opinion of course, everyone is both right and wrong at the same time. | |
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09-01-2006, 12:51 AM
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#5 | | Keronian Ambassador Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,644 | From the posts I see in the News and Movie forums, apparently it has to look clunky, blocky, perectly humanoid (right down to the faces), have huge vehicle chunks hangin' off them, and essentially defy the laws of physics to be a "real" Transformer and not "JUS A ROBOT BIONICLE OMFG!!!!!!11"
Oh, and they have to be exact replicas of G1 characters, musn't forget that. | |
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09-01-2006, 12:53 AM
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#6 | | tells it like it is. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,443 Location: Minneapolis Collection Count: Too many to count | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Lazerbeak From the posts I see in the News and Movie forums, apparently it has to look clunky, blocky, perectly humanoid (right down to the faces), have huge vehicle chunks hangin' off them, and essentially defy the laws of physics to be a "real" Transformer and not "JUS A ROBOT BIONICLE OMFG!!!!!!11"
Oh, and they have to be exact replicas of G1 characters, musn't forget that. | Many, many "real" Transformers have broken all of those rules, not always all at once, mind you. | |
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09-01-2006, 12:55 AM
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#7 | | Porn Search Assister Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,379 Location: Treading the waters of irrelevancy. | I'd say it's purely an aesthetic quality. The only TFs that share a very, very little similarity to the movie designs are some of the Transmetal 2s. And even that's a stretch.  | |
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09-01-2006, 12:59 AM
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#8 | | PAC-MAN HAT!!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,186 Location: Texa$ Collection Count: 355+ | I think it's even simpler than your definition, Triple M. For instance, the Junkions are not from Cybertron. Unicron is neither from Cybertron nor belonging to one of two warring factions. Sometimes those factions are not even at war!
A TransFormer is a living transforming robot belonging to a particular brand owned by Hasbro and Takara.  | |
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09-01-2006, 01:01 AM
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#9 | | The Ratbastard
Kickback is abusing his powers Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 17,267 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Collection Count: None any more | Quote: |
Originally Posted by flamepanther A TransFormer is a living transforming robot belonging to a particular brand owned by Hasbro and Takara. | That's pretty much what I was going to say, if Hasbro/Takratomy says it's a Transformer, it's a Transformer. 
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09-01-2006, 01:08 AM
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#10 | | tells it like it is. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,443 Location: Minneapolis Collection Count: Too many to count | But what if they shit in a hat and called it a Transformer? Would we accept that as a TRUE Transformer? I know I wouldn't.
I'd like to hear some opinions from people who don't consider the movie TFs to be true Tfs with reasons why they don't. This isn't an effort to debunk them, I just want to hear some well thought out reasons why, and not just knee-jerk reactions. | |
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