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Anyway, to anyone actually interested I emailed Jim Sorenson on the subject to get his perspective. Here's his response:

This isn't canon but it's from one of the most important TF writers out there. So it seems that at least from Jim's perspective the answer is that it depends on the individual universe. This would mean that the multiverse itself has no set upper or lower limits in dimensions if I'm following him right.

 

Which means your post was answered correctly all the way back on the first page when someone said "infinite".

 

Which wasn't an actual answer to the question asked, but an answer to a question the poster perceived. I was speaking of dimensions in their actual meaning and not as a substitute for universal stream. A quick viewing of this topic will show people responding without reading the op.

 

In case anyone actually was interested in the subject I can say that I've got a definitive answer by digging through Ask Vector Prime.

So this means that the TF multiverse as a whole operates with 17 basic dimensions.

 

There's also the Flatworld, the world of Planicrons. A two-dimensional universe.

 

where is the reference to FunPub 12-dimension universe? AFAIK Alternities are 10-dimensional being, where they are battling 'unbounded' beings

 

As many as they write

 

I'd like to see some characters dimension jumping. So IDW Swerve and Tailgate jump to the Sunbow continuity and are the Swerve and Tailgate we saw briefly in the cartoon - the Sunbow continuity wouldn't have its own Swerve and Tailgate.

 

No thanks on Swerve and Tailgate. But it would be kind of cool if they pulled a similar story to the movie One or the Spiderman "Morlun" storyline, where a villain is killing off multiverse versions of a popular character.

 

Again, not even a remotely correct answer. Reading the thread would've helped. The answer, as Cobalt would find and generously share in this very thread last August, was 17.

 

In Revenge of the Fallen during the physics class scene when Sam is supercharged with Cybertronian knowledge through contact with a bit of the Allspark, he mentions that E=MC2 is true in this dimension, but not the other 17. So it is 18 dimensions in the movie continuity, but I don't think there is any guarantee that this carries over to the other continuities, and this info seems to contradict the ask Vector Prime reference.

 

The AVP reference, though, is only semi-canon...it's official if you want it to be but also designed to be ignored, per the author Jim Sorenson. Even if you were to take Jim's stuff as official, AVP also said there were many more unexplored continuities that weren't listed...implying that we don't exactly know how many continuities there are.

I do think most folks concur there are primary continuities and then each have derivatives. I personally view the primary continuities as:

1. G1 Marvel
2. G1 Sunbow
2.5 Beast Wars
3. CarRobots
4. Dreamwave
5. Armada/Energon/Cybertron
6. Bayverse
7. Animated
8. IDW
9. Aligned
10. Botcon/TCC

If you go into derivatives, this list expands ten to hundreds-fold. But I feel fine with just these 10.5 as primaries and then approaching each sub-continuity ("G1 U.S. Marvel vs. UK Marvel" or "G1 Sunbow cartoons vs. Japan's Toei cartoons") as it comes. Beast Wars is a G1 derivative, BTW, but the delineation is murky, hence it's own demarcation.

 

What I'm going to say is kinda off-topic but imo AVP is as canon as your average mainstream continuity (admitedly, not as important but that's besides the point). Official=canon. I think what Jim meant by that post was that you can ignore AVP material in YOUR fanon (hate the term headcanon or personal canon), just like you can ignore the 86 movie ever happened.

 

That's not correct at all, though, since much of AVP was non-sanctioned by Hasbro when it returned in Facebook form. It's not "official", per se. It's simply a Transformers writer's attempt at making sense of the TF Universe by way of his previously defunct Hasbro page's name. It would be the same as Simon Furhman independently doing the same thing...and then calling it official canon.

 

Of course, not official = non-canon = fan fiction. That's why Simon Furman's Aligned doesn't counts. Except these fb pages are extensions of funpub. Jim and the funpub guys repeatedly said that these were being approved by Hasbro. It's an obscure piece of TF fiction but it's still official, just published in a different medium.

 

Well, Swerve and Tailgate was only an example. It would still work since Swerve and Tailgate only made very brief appearances in the Sunbow cartoon. They made cameos, not being formally introduced or written out; so what happens to them off screen is anybody's guess. There is no right or wrong answer.

 

Every time you said AVP, I was confused what impact the film Aliens Versus Predator had on the Transformers canon.  

But your reply does not make much sense in the context of this topic anyway. We are not discussing how many continuities there are, but are counting dimensions as a physical concept. Like how a line is a 1-dimensional object, a plane is a 2-dimensional one, a cube has 3-dimensions, and then we go into confusing stuff with hyper cubes and time and whatnot. So when I say there are 18 dimensions in the movie universe, I am not saying there are 18 sub-continuities in the movie universe, but physics in that universe operates on 18 dimensions. I think. I am no sort of physicist.

 

lets see, the Number of Series/ Lines/ Fiction
G1 US
G1 Japan (Headmasters/ Masterforce/ Victory/ Zone/ Return of Convoy/ Battlestars)
Marvel G1/ IDW Continuation
IDW G1
G2
Beast Wars
Beast Wars 2
Beast Wars Neo
Beast Machines
Transtech (only Club Fiction)
Robots in Disguise/ Car Robots
Armada
Energon
Cybertron
Classicverse
Binaltech/Kiss Players
Alternity
Legends
Universe 2.0
Generations
Prime Wars (Combiner Wars/ Titans Return/ Power of the Primes)
Bayverse
Animated
Aligned (Prime/ Robots in Disguise/?)
Deviations
Hearts of Steel

 

 

Not. The. Question. Being. Asked.

The first post spells out exactly what he was asking. Listing series is not any form of the answer being looked for and not even remotely helpful to the topic.

 

Eh. It's more like Jim having fun trying to connect the dots under license of Funpub. When the author says you can 100% ignore it as official canon...again, eh.

And I apologize for mistaking dimensions for multiverse dimensions. As for that, Transformers only can have as many physics based dimensions as the authors can understand them.