What if you rewritten Beast Wars?

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  1. beastal

    beastal Well-Known Member

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    How would you rewrite Beast Wars?

    Like what if Iguanus & Spittor appeared instead of Inferno? If they did, after Dinobot II was made and as Cheetor gets the Transmetal unit, Iguanus & Spittor get caught in the overloaded blast reborn as Transmetal IIs.

    And for Waspinator, he should've been Transmetal as well and Terrorsaur staying alive as one too (he could've been the next Starscream).
     
  2. Slingshot

    Slingshot Back In the Game

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    I definantly would get rid of some of the slapstick humor.
    Rhinox releasing Gas in one episode was pretty bad. That didn't need to be there.
    I would have loved to see everyone get Transmetal forms, and I'm curious what Waspinator would look like as a Transmetal, however the reason they gave for some not having a transmetal form is fine.
    Beast Machines improved the Beast Era in every way. There was no slapstick comedy.
     
  3. beastal

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    Which non-show Maximals & Predacons would you wanted to appear and throw a a few on the show to replace?

    Plus they could at least make more female Maxies & Preds besides just Airazor & Blackarachnia.
     
  4. LegionMaximus

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    I'd get rid of some of the slapstick, especially the scene where Dinobot (I think) runs into a tree and turns "flat", like a Looney Tunes character.

    IIRC the writers didn't even want a lot of those scenes, basically the higher up told them "PUT IN MORE FUNNIES" and they had to oblige.
     
  5. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    The only thing I'd change is the finale. Drop the absurd Covenant of Primus nonsense, not kill off Tigerhawk, (at least not until the end and bring him in earlier so he's less "hi-and-die") actually give a proper finale from someone who gets the show instead of Simon Furman.

    I'd also put Dark Glass back in for the sake of the finale, leave in the scene of Primal returning the original Megatron's spark, and just to shut everyone up, rewrite the desciption of Prime's insides to avoid the Spark/Matrix confusion. :lol  Everything else? I doubt I could do better. I couldn't write a better Megatron, I wouldn't touch season 2 at all, I doubt I'd be any funnier than the humour as is, and I'd leave season one untouched so as not to mess with the seeds it planted for later.
     
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    I'd rewrite Beast Machines. I'm sure I could come up with stuff I'd want to change/improve but I haven't seen the show in quite a bit of time. Having said that, Beast Wars is a very special show-- when I watch it I instantly remember the time and place I was in my life when I first viewed it. It's very nostalgia heavy, very special, very powerful-- I wouldn't change anything because of that. /end nostalgia trip.
     
  7. Sonic Eclipse

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    I probably would tone down some of the slapstick myself. There were times when its genuinely funny, but some times it was just to much. Seeing Waspinator get blown to bits all the time wasn't always funny and really did feel like something that was more appropriate for Looney Tunes.

    I also would have turned everyone who had a toy into a Transmetal. It still irks me that Rhinox, Airazor, Waspinator, and technically Inferno have Transmetal toys but were never used in the show, I understand budget costs but still. Speaking of Transmetals, I would have kept Terrorsaur alive not only because I liked the character, but because he also had a cool looking Transmetal figure.

    I probably would have extened seasons 2 & 3 by another 13 episodes making it 26 episodes each. Season 3 could have really used it.

    The episode "Proving Grounds" still kind of bothers me to this day, because Blackarachnia is smarter than that. How could she not know that decision to remove her shell program would be hers to make? That is the Maximal way. Rewrite it or get rid of the episode entirely. Also get rid of "Go with the flow".

    I also wish we learned more about the Vok.
     
  8. Ikkstakk

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    I'll admit, the G1 fan in me would have had Silverbolt get mortally wounded in the third season and to save his life, the Maximals go into the Ark and pull out the Sparks of Ironhide and Prowl and build Magnaboss. Rhinox would have had to "amputate" Silverbolt's wolf half, leaving only the eagle, and undergoing some kind of "Spark therapy" by uniting his injured Spark with Ironhide and Prowl's healthy Sparks inside Magnaboss would be the only way he could survive until his Spark was healed enough to allow them to disengage. No real purpose to the story except to drag a couple of Autobots into it.
     
  9. GrimlockPrimal

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    Honestly, as much as I love the show, there's some things I wish were there, but aren't;
    - Add Grimlock to the Maximals and give him his own beast mode, but still one that could feasibly be remolded from Dinobot. Also replace the gold parts with bronze, though that's more so the toy doesn't suffer from GPS than an aesthetic complaint. To balance the teams out, Rumble joins the Predacons with a crocodile beast mode.
    - Give everyone with Transmetal toys their Transmetal forms, of course. Obviously, Grimlock would get a Transmetal body, too, which would mean it'd be easier to remold into Dinobot. Scavenger is the Transmetal version of Inferno.
    - Even if Dinobot does get a Transmetal body, he still ends up kicking the bucket in Code of Hero exactly in the same way. That episode is too great not to leave as is...with the obvious additions of Grimlock and Rumble, but outside of those, it's exactly the same.
    - Silverbolt remains a wolf/eagle Fuzor, but is hinted to be the G1 character at multiple points in the series. Not bluntly said, but just hints. Additionally, Silverbolt arrives in a ship and his fused beast mode is a result of scanning two animals at the same time rather than a corrupted stasis pod. The ship is also named Superion.
    - Have it so that they tie Megatron down inside the shuttle rather than outside, but then make it so that he still gets to escape when a rogue band of Predacons intercepts them in transwarp space, attacking the shuttle and freeing Megatron; who proceeds to escape out into transwarp space, with the other Predacons following suit. This still lets Beast Machines happen, but doesn't make the Maximals look like fools for putting their prisoner on the outside of the vessel. The band includes Scourge, Spittor, Frenzy (who is a redeco of Rumble), Laserbeak and Buzzsaw (who are both remolds of Transmetal Terrorsaur).

    Other than that...nothing.
     
  10. Sparky Prime

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    Mostly I just think the 3rd season could have been a little longer so it wouldn't have felt so rushed and explained a few more things. Things like where Megatron got the Transmetal 2 Driver from, the "Dark Glass" episode, a few more episodes featuring Tigerhawk, and have the scene with Primal returning G1 Megatron spark in the finale...
     
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    Tone down the slapstick humor.
    Rewrite Waspinator's character.
    Give the Low Road a complete rewrite.
    Give Scorponok and Terrasaur a better sendoff.
    Fix whatever problems Dark Glass had and put it into the show.
    Have the Vok involved in the finale and give Tigerhawk more to do.

    Don't have any specifics on how to do this stuff. Since the series is good as it is, I've never put any thought to it.
     
  12. incapable hulk

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    I'd have put robots that turn into cars, trucks, jets, tanks, guns and other stuff into it instead ;) 
     
  13. shockwave1

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    Honestly season 1 could have been made into 2 seasons: The Trigger Part 1 & season 2 The Trigger Part 2. Just a suggestion.

    The slap stick got kind of out of wack, pardon my pun. Season 2 was the best for me.

    I thought I read somewhere that BM was not to have the slap stick and the Maximals will not have hand weapons? I didn't care for BM much except the flashback to BW & Optimal-Megs at the end.

    Thanks.

    :) 
     
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    Honestly, I don't think I would've written Beast Wars any differently. The only thing about it that I wish I could change is the painfully hard to watch CGI from the first season. Which by the way made HUGE improvements durings season two and three, as well as the Beast Machines episodes.
     
  15. Metroplex79

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    The only thing I would have done, was add 2-4 more eps into Season 2 and 3.
     
  16. Chaos Prime

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    Well I'm going to side with the majority, and also cut back on the slapstick humor. Some of it was okay, buuuut, some of it needs to go.

    Budget permitting, I would add some more characters to the roster, and maybe try to keep the original concept of the series finale, which would have involved Megatron (Beast Megatron) activating the Cone-head seekers on board the Nemesis, and have the Maximals have a more active role in the final episode. A much more active role. The final episode of Beast Wars was such a let down. jwjffgkld;sjg'

    For Beast Machines, it had some good elements, however I would add to the roster of characters. The Vehicons weren't just a threat to the Maximals, they were a threat to ALL of Cybertron. The cast NEEDED some Predacon, Autobot, and Decepticon members, much like the Botcon Wreckers.
    I can totally see out it now. The Decepticons are at odds with Optimus Primal, but he eventually convinces them to side with him. The Autobot doesn't want to 'downgrade' as he puts it with a beast mode, and doesn't share in Primals vision of a techno organic Cybertron. This would have made Beast Machine more palatable in my eyes.
     
  17. Chopperface

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    Hmm. A few nitpicks I would edit:

    * I'm torn on whether or not to keep Inferno dead after season two or not. He was clearly intended to die during The Agenda, but had some riotously funny moments in season three... which was all he did in season three, provide comedy and some extra firepower. So he wouldn't really be missed. But, his final death in the series finale, by way of Megatron happily obliterating him, and Inferno realizing in horror during his final moments that his queen really doesn't care about him, was so priceless. So poetic, I suppose. Ultimately I suppose he could still be killed in season two's finale, where he begs for Megatron's help once he sets off the Energon cache, but Megatron refuses, and he still dies learning that his queen never cared for him.

    * Put in Dark Glass, and make it explicitly tied to the original Dinobot's "return" in Nemesis, to clear up the confusion.

    * If nothing else, introduce the Covenant of Primus and Tigerhawk earlier into the third season. Have Primal stumble upon the Covenant and mention he thought he'd never see it or something. Tigerhawk's arrival still is what rings out to Primal and Megatron that they're acting out events from the Covenant. I loved that in the finale we learn, implicitly, that BW Megatron is the true Anti Christ the Covenant speaks of, and is who the original Megatron took his name from, and ultimately who he took his name from. It was a terrific development to see that in the end this Megatron is the ultimate evil that the Covenant foretells. Just introduce the Covenant and Tigerhawk earlier.
    * Have the Maximals mention Tigatron and Airazor more after they're abducted.
    * Honestly the line from the Vok on how there is more danger than Primal knows if Earth remains is really cool. Really foreboding, especially in this time when they're dealing with a mysterious, advanced and alien threat. It makes you wonder what's out there. But we never learn what threat there was, which in retrospect we could chalk up to the Vok just blowing smoke. So maybe it could be more heavily implied that the threat was in fact Megatron's attempts to change the timeline in The Agenda and season three? Just to preserve such a cool line and have it actually tie into the show.
    * On a similar note, the whole "a form you cannot comprehend" was kinda weak since they're later shown to be floating skulls. Maybe delete this line and instead have the line be amended to be "After searching your memory banks, we have decided to appear to you using this figure of authority." I dunno.

    Again, these are all nitpicks. Other Victories and Nemesis had some serious flaws but it partly came from the guys having to suddenly wrap up the show when the axe suddenly fell.
     
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    I would rewrite it using a time machine. Preferably a Delorean with space flight capabilities. And if I had one, I would not rewrite Beast Wars, I would use it for other things like answering the questions of where we came from and where we're going. Or like spending a weekend in a nice place where no humans live :lol 
     
  19. Ramberk Magnus

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    Having read some of the other comments I want to add more of my 2 cents (basically why I would not change things...)

    - Rhinox not getting his transmetal form-- I'm glad that he remained in the same form through the entire show. It was a constant reminder of how much everyone had gone through during this mini-war. Getting a new body invalidates the "scars of war" because its a brand new body, your scars are removed. Rhinox, the experienced and tough veteran, was a perfect choice to get stuck in his old form. I like this.
    - Waspinator, keep him slapstick, keep him silly. You need a contrasting agent to keep things interesting and different. In drama you need highs and lows, and Waspy gave us highs when things got too intense or serious. He was also unique and gave good material for other characters to bounce off. If you lose Waspy's goofiness, you lose a special dynamic. He's like the guacamole on your nachos- you could lose it but adding that one small element, makes the nachos so much better!
    - I actually agree with some of the other comments (longer seasons, better plotting with Tigerhawk, better foreshadowing).
     
  20. ron8675309

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    This. Most of the suggestions are just awful.