Okay I looked at your comic and OMG this is sweet! I wish I could put it into details, but I'm speechless.
Thanks. & remember, this was all done w/ no photoshopping skills when I started, no real ability to write stories, no real sense of humor, & the then unfamiliar GIMP editing program. So you shouldn't let a lack of experience stop you from trying your comic. GIMP is freeware, which is why I use it. & there are plenty of tutorials, both here & elsewhere on the web, to help you use GIMP.
Nice update! I'll just post my random thoughts..no particular order here. I think all the planning paid of well. Pretty nice stuff in this one. love the new faction change. I liked the use of jetfire as a transport again. that shot of the bots coming down the ramp was a nice touch. I think the electricity is pretty good. Especially in the wheeljacks lab scene. G2 trailer seems to work out pretty good here...but what happened with the wheels? The only version of the original prime mold I had for a long time was the g2 version...so somehow that trailer just looks right on him to me. Nice "flux capacitor" reference. The bags turned out pretty good for the cargo bay. One suggestion i would have would be to just slip in a random pic of real stars for the space portion...might make things faster for you...I don't know how you are doing the stars you have. I didn't know bludgeon could sit in that pose-awesome! Straxus seems like a good choice to be his trainee. I'm really curious to see what happens to mp prime there... Seemed to flow pretty nicely to me. Nothing really jumped out at me...so I'm pretty sure i read it in the order intended. That is amazing. I'm totally gonna try that! original camero mold ftw again! Awesome! They turned out pretty good. This is prettymuch what i do. Duplicate the whole layer, then blurr the bottom one, then erase out the appropriate areas from the top layer. Yeah, that's pretty much how i explain it. It his "normal" state of mind, i doubt he would follow megatron that long...at least cartoon story-wise. Yeah, it really is too bad. WFC Is about the best g1 inspired megs toy we have gotten in my mind. He just needs to be bigger! They just need to bring the whole size class thing back to beast wars standards across the boards i think. Yeah, that is kinda funny. I have run into this issue sometimes too. But i guess it makes sense, as in a way a battle is easier to remeber what you planned when you get the pics into editing. Easier to figure out "he is shooting him" than to remember "this one must say this, this one must say that. For some of my scenes that required a lot of stolen movie dialouge...i just recorded the scenes from the movie so i could play em back to help me remember. Yeah, my main issue is in flying scenes. When the jets come from different shots. Robot modes i can usually line up and get the sizes right...but I find i never really remeber how big flying altmodes are in relation to each other. Especially when dealing with jets from different size classes. No worries...always better to take your time. Wow a megatron that broke somewhere other than the gold plastic? that has gotta be a first. I sometimes have trouble with him remembering the certain way i transform that kibble too. Yeah, I really wonder how that will play out. Yeah, it really is too bad about mp rodimus issues. Yeahh for real....I think the isuues started with human allaince, every bb after has had the roof on his back.
Thanks! Yeah. I had to define the space the 'Cons were confined to, but once I did that it wasn't hard to work out movement. Especially to demonstrate that the Martial Arts Tanks had 1/2 the bay to themselves! Thanks. That one was pretty easy to come up w/. I've wanted to do it for a while now, but the 'Cons tended to end up first every update... So I wanted to change that up. Things happen chronologically (unless noted otherwise). Well, Skyfire (CHUGRU are G1 personalities) IS the Classics' transport 'Bot. Uh, it was all ONLY in the Lab scene. In Hoist's Spark, as he's going critical, & in Wheeljack's device activating when not plugged in... Well, I took the pics of G2 Prime (whole, I used the cab to align the trailer w/ MP Prime & kept it as I enlarged it, to ge the size right, ^_^ then erased the G2 Cab) in the same area I was shooting, & the next room is dark (they were leaving the Dark-lands), so the wheels didn't stand out seperate from the shadows, so the selection tool didn't completely select them. In the Lab, I noticed & 'shopped MP's wheels. There were issues w/ the trailer in the Lab too, but I covered them up, nicely it seems. I went back & 'shopped the wheels in the earlier panel too. Looks much better that way. Well, "Flux Capasitor" when translated to laymans terms means roughly "variant [charge] storage". Wheeljack forgot it could hold a charge... Though even knowing that, he'd have no idea how the device activated, muchless overloaded. Part of what happens depends on if I get a new toy soon or not (not any of the new Primes that have come out). I do do the stars one at a time, but GIMP has a Paint Brush in that shape, so it doesn't take long. & yeah, the bags were the perfect set for defining the Cargo Bay. If I get the angle right, I can overlay it on Astrotrain & have his Cargo Bay Doors open. I tried to overlay the first shot of it, instead of having it as a seperate cut out, but I didn't have the angles right. I worked it out a loooonng time ago. He's a Martial Artist, so it's a natural pose to use for him meditating. Really, it's just an extention of getting his knee to move, since the knee can bend right around 90 degrees & rotates right at the joint. Though, the legs do have to stack, rather than cross, so from certain angles it looks weird. (You need to open the flaps for his feet storage too, but they aren't seen. & if you want, can push them up against the leg, once they're posed.) Well, they are a LOT alike, even if you just go by bios. He's about as tough as Bludgeon, so no real chance he'd go offline from any one particular strike. & as Bludgeon said, he needed someone tough to train w/, to keep his skills & his sword sharp, since as far as he knows, he won't see Drift for quite some time. However, there is More going on here Than Meets the Eye. If I ever get around to a training scene, some of that should become clear. Another reason I used Straxus is that he can take the other meditation pose: kneeling. I had to fold his legs into themselves (like when you transform him), but it looks right! ^_^ You mean YOU don't know. Pretty sure I've discussed it w/ you... & some of the terminology I used should make it fairly obvious... The question really is "what all will happen there?" I try to keep the order of the bubbles Western Comic style: highest & furthest to the left first, & read down & to the right... Once in a while, a bubble on the top right goes third, but it's natural for Westerners to read like that anyway, but I try to make such a positioned bubble worded in such a way that reading it 2nd, & the one meant to be 2nd 3rd, won't be much of an issue... Or I make it pretty obvious, so the reader can go back & read it right. When I saw it in the thread the Quoted image was in, I knew I had to put it in my comic if I could duplicate it. Wasn't hard. That was the ENTIRE point of me including Movie Cliffjumper in that lead up to & the Review. I had intended to show it earlier, about where Straxus gets rammed for the 2nd time, but Straxus got rammed that 2nd time for a laugh... & it really is going to be messed up if that's the ONLY Bumblebee that can actually immitate the actual transformation. One that was never planned to include the mode, that existed before the new mode was even conceived! Originally, I had made attempts at blurring w/o duplicating the figure... Most didn't make the comic. But how could I not do an effect for Rhinox dropping? He really doesn't look right if you don't do the motion blurr like that. Though, I probably should've put some "*boom*" sound effects at his feet... Deluxe & Voyager aren't TOO different from their Beast Wars equivalents (DotM excluded, of course). They're just missing the inbetween Mega Class. Really, Beast Wars was the only line to properly scale all the sizes... RotF kinda did, but not entirely... Of course it'll be easier to shop a laser from a cannon pointed in a particular direction, but I have had issues w/ which bot was targeted. Bruticus' attack was quite difficult to get the target's right... I had to resort to missiles for a few that WERE supposed to be hit, but didn't line up w/ a gun right. Ex.: Salvage was the one I had planned for the Megatron Gun to shoot, but he didn't line up right (at one point, Bruticus, still balancing on ONE leg, was bumped & rotated some... Impressively, he still didn't fall). So, Hoist got blasted off the table instead... Though, his Spark's placement was easier to do w/ that circle in his chest/ abdomen. & there are panels, in the Autobot 1/2 of this update no less, that were easier to figure out who says what & how than just following the script I had for the Decepticons. @.@ Most of my cast is deluxe, few are Voyager or Mega (no Megas have shown up yet). However, I have 2 fliers who are Voyagers (Skyfire, & one who hasn't shown up yet, won't till the Decepticons get to Cybertron, & even then it might not be obvious immediately), but if I get Deluxes & Voyagers into a dog fight, I'd keep the toys near by for a size comparison, if I have to rescale any. The wait is nearly over. The Multiversal Singularity, as well as how my Alternity works (& possibly others, as one idea may get adopted), will be revealed in the next udate! Unless my head injury acts up again, I expect it to be up by Monday, if not sooner. There will be a number of surprises I think. & probably a few references not everyone knows about. I wasn't even aware of problems w/ the Gold Plastic. I can't remember how the arm/ chest hinge broke. All I know, is it can't be fixed & Hasbro wouldn't replace it when I asked. Before I had been hurt, I didn't. I could remember every sequence of every TF, both official & the easier/ quicker/ better way I worked out, for every TF I have. Now, it appears some of that is slipping away. Years before I got hurt, I learned one time that I had inadvertantly memorized some of the Lego sets I have (the first, sometimes only, assembly), as I had to disassemble about 1/4 of a complicated one, as I put a structure ONE CONNECTOR off, which hindered a garrage door from opening & raising a scout like vehicle. I fixed it from memory. Later, I disassembled one of my most complex ships, to reconfigure it (might've copied a robot off the "also possible w/ this set" pic from the box), & rebuilt the ENTIRE ship from memory. It was at least a 350 piece set. I had a near perfect memory prior to being hit on the head. I think EVERYONE is. Vangelus says the issues aren't TOO bad, if you take your time (he posted his review of "Hot Rod" (he will post Rodimus seperate). But he still had the leg panel fall off, like it seems everyone is having happen... But he did point something out: Hasbro has strictor Child Safety Standards, which may require the issues be fixed. ^_^ Maybe they are thinking "hey, G1 'Bee has his roof on his chest, why not put it on his back?" If they are, they're not only lazy, but incredibly stupid too. It is uncalled for to have Shellformers that aren't direct homages of their toys. Especially when the first Concept 'Bee mold got so much right...
Yeah. I think it turned out great. I always forget your using the toon name for him. Either way, it was cool. Doh! I meant the last one, when the machine starts to overload. That lightning looked pretty good. Oh I see. I think you should stick with using this trailer. interesting. I wonder what toy that could be? Yeah, if you could get the angles right, that would look pretty cool having the bay doors opened. Yeah that is really cool. I'm gonna have to try it next time i have bludgeon or banzaitron out. Kinda irks me I killed em both now lol. Yeah it looks right. Finally, something those legs are good for! My memory is a little hazy....I'm drawing a blank. Well, everything flowed just fine for me. Well it certainly caught me off guard. That was so awesome! Still pretty sweet though. I doubt any of the new camaro molds could pull it off. The arms store up from underneath...and there is now real way for them to extend up. Besides the fact the roof is solid piece on all of them. Yeah I forgot to comment on Rhinox-I was so happy to see him. Especially that one. That fox kids colors one was my only rhinox for a while, and to this day, I still like that repaint more than his normal colors. I did get the eventual tenth anniversary rhinox, but he goes with the rest of the beast wars guys, where the fox kids one is the one that gets played with whenever i want to mess with a rhinox. Yeah, but the beast wars naming scheme for the sizes just made so much more sense. Yeah there were just a few scenes i wrote a script for. But it eneded up being more trouble than it was worth to me. Plus sometimes, i will think of a better joke after the pic is in the editing phase. My issues is I typically have all the toys put away by the time I am editing. That's why alot of this stuff with terradive and animated skywarp was shot together. as one is deluxe and one is voyager. Sweet, I can't wait! Well it sucks. I only found out about it from reading this article Gold Plastic Syndrome - Transformers Wiki Lol I spend way too much time on the tf wiki. Dang that is impressive. I could only remember specific steps in lego sets, never the whole thing! I can only hope so. Gonna have to take my chances when he is finally released. I only ever saw grimmy once...never again, so I missed him. I'm gonna have to get rodimus as soon as I see him and hope for the best. Yeah it is pretty lazy. There was a interveiw with a takara designer a while back that revealed that the philosophy was to put any extra on the back of a bot. But in that interveiw it sounded like they were trying to move away from that kind of thing. That was a year or two ago, and now were right back where we started. I just don't get it, as most of rotf/hftd was leaps ahead of the first movie toys, and now we are stepping backwards. Some look great, but the repeat characters are getting shafted.
I grew up w/ the cartoon, I'm used to him being Skyfire... & I have SEVERAL Jetfire's here (Armada, Cybertron, Animated, RotF), & I'm not sure how many will make it in the comic over time, but Animate's has, so there's no reason not to go w/ his G1 name, especially since he does have the G1 head. I specifically chose to use yellow there to see how it'd look. I wasn't sure if it'd come out, since I had it go back & forth like I did. The next update's editing phase will determine if MP Op & his G2 Trailer head to Planet Arus or remain on Earth. If you can't guess, I'm not saying... Chances that I get it are practially nil, & if I do get it this weekend, it'd probably require a reshoot. I can get the angle right, if I take my time & put Astrotrain in the shot, but shopping the doors open could prove a challange. My Blugdeon is too tough to kill. His skin is too thick to penetrate. & Drift's one-hit-kill failed to even scatch him. Rhinox has a similar hide... ^_^ But so does Straxus... & you do have a story that involves time travel! I like his legs, except for the looseness. They may be hollow, but it's completely enclosed, so it doesn't detract from the figure.. I have another use for those legs for later that I came up w/ near when I got Darkmount. Then it'll be a surprise to you, too. I'm not saying what happens again! There's a new Deluxe mold, that's been up on the front page for a week or so, special for the attack mode. @.@ The improvised one I found looks better... X_X Why the Leader Class toy doesn't have it is beyond me (it's Mech Tech weapon simulates it, but it's even worse). & I don't know why for every step forward Hasbro engineering takes, it takes a few LEAPS backwards... DotM Nitro Bumblebee looks stupid, & STILL has the roof on his back. I liked Rhinox's original colors, but from what I read of GPS, it would've broke by now. I've been wanting to get Rhinox in for a while now. I had considered having him in the Review, but thought he needed a dramtic entrance & some medical/ engineering heroics. Could you make out Rattrap's question about what happend? I thought it fit Rattrap's usual snide comments & jokes well. Well, I can't argue about the naming scheme any. Well, I had to do the script for the Decepticons NOT for the dialog, but so I know how & where to pose everyone for the panel. In the original shoot, I had Bludgeon stand up to approach Starscream & Brawl dive out of the way, the panel count was running high, so it was left out of the reshoot. The light was too close the first time as well, so the scripting wasn't the only thing that caused the reshoot. So far, I've left the toys out. The AEG & their allies are still on the table, but the Decepticons are in their bag cargo bay on a couch. The ones I'm using all had places in my room easily accessed, so I could always grab what I need if I'd need a size comparison anyway. We don't use all the rooms here anymore. Plus, my balance problems would make going back & forth to get everyone out problematic. I hope to start shooting tonight (Sat.) & editing Sunday, if not sooner (depends on head injury). Reading that, my Megatron DID break due to GPS, execpt it was the brown plastic. @.@ His brown plastic is mentioned specifically, not his gold; though the gold may still be an issue. I never set out to memorize the Lego sets. I just discoverd that I had natually. Makes my memory problems now all the worse, going from near photographic/ perfect to fragmented at best. >.< Most of my old memories are intact (sometimes difficult to access, though), but new ones & ones from a few months before the accident have problems, if they exist at all. I'm lucky I can still clearly recall the accident. I wanted MP Grimlock, but aside from not seeing him, ever, I had run out of money prior to his release. I want Rodimus too, but again no $, & I'd want the trailer... But would settle for just Hot Rod... Right before my income dried up, I did find MP Skywarp on clearance ($30?). ^_^ If Op works out, I might shop MP Skywarp in for a Seeker for Starscream to boss around... Haven't decided yet... It's always better when the Kibble is integrated w/ the bot mode, rather than just being left over & tucked away. & I think the repeat characters are being made kid friendly. Sentinel Prime looked awesome in the review that's up for him!
That's true. I only had the experience of the toys when i was really young, so he will always be jetfire to me. It came out pretty nice I think. Hmmm.... well you could always not worry about the doors, and just say they retracted or something. I still think it's worth a shot. Yeah, I do, but the time travel points are pretty much planned out already, so going back in time is on hold for right now. Yeah, I am so glad they put those back pieces on to finish the legs. Yeah, that nitro bumblebee looks really weird. And nothing like the stealth force mode seen in the trailer. Good choice there. Yeah. Classic rattrap right there. I see. One of the reasons why it is rare for me to show the entire cast at once. I usually just focus on those that are speaking. I have two cats, so leaving the toys out on the counter would not be a good idea for me. No worries, take your time if need be. Yeah. GPS is kind of a misleading name. It had been a while since I read that article, I should have caught that. That really sucks. I scored mp skywaor at the thirty dollar price too. Great figure right there. He may show up in my comic at some point. Of course, the real issue is a reason for my skywarp to upgrade, considering he isn't too bright and all. Plus, if I do use him, I would want to show off that jet mode, so that would necessitate some sort of dogfight. And on this planet, I don't know who he would have an air battle with. Quote: Yeah, sentinal prime looks just great. The rest...I don't know. I kinda like the new voayger Ironhide, the rest of the returning cast...not so much. I want megatron and shockwave, probably the wreckers.
I'd prefer to avoid as many duplicate names as possible. I already have 2 overlaps planned... But am working on a nickname for one to work around that. The first isn't going to be in much, so I can still use his normal name; but the 2nd could potentially become a recurring character later... & I'm debating on whether or not to do a dog fight when he finally is introduced. No, I'd still try the doors. I said it'd be a challange, not impossible, & I like challenges... It's just that the challange could well delay whichever update I try it on. & yet another Bumblebee mold to be released... For 20+ years, Bumblebee was ignored... & now the Movies are over using him. @.@ Dropping the level of engineering w/ each update. I hope to be able to keep them pretty close to their show selves... I should be able to get them closer than most of the Autobots, I think. Though, Rattrap's one liners may be a bit tricky for me... I already have Rattrap's first "We're all gonna die." or two already planned. ^_^ I think you'll like him in this next update... He was one of my favorites in the show & toys (I only have his TransMetal & Beast Machines toys -- wish his Beast Machines one was better engineered. If I were to try to put it in the comic later, I'd have to 'shop it a lot, I think. & shrink it). Why & who all will be going to Planet Arus is covered in this update. It isn't random. ^_^ Though, the count for the Autobots did turn out to be just about right by accident. I haven't been showing the entire cast. Well, the entire collection. I'll be thinning the Autobots out some in this update. Though, I already have some... But first, an increase. But there are cases where showing everyone is better for the story, if you have the space. It's just panel consuming to give everyone a line. That would make it problematic. Not like I have a choice here. I hope to start shooting this update after finishing writing this, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to. My head hurts some, & I'm tired still, even after lying down for a few hours. Lots of things are named for the first or predominate instance. I had wanted the G1 colored MP Starscream, but only saw it once. Skywarp at $30 was impossible to pass up. The MP Seeker mold, inspite of it's issues, is a nice additioin to the MP line. Too bad it's posability isn't as good as the others... You could always have Pol's Sideways show up... Or have Sideways transport PNP to the Predator world, & Skywarp join him to get the bomb out of his head, receiving the upgrade at the same time... Or you could have Sideways deliver a new Bludgeon or Banzaitron. Or, if you want to go another route, I could work out a way to accidently/ intentionally clone my Bludgeon, & get him to your Alternity... But that could take some time to work out & then into my comic. & my Bludgeon would decimate ALL sides in your comic... I've never been a fan of the movie designs. There are a few cool looking toys, but most of them didn't make the movies. RotF & Sentinel Prime are by far the best engineered it seems.
Oh I understand the naming thing. I didn't mean to argue with you, just warning you that It's gonna be hard for me to remember he is skyfire lol Well, you could always steal a pic of the real space shuttle, and cut the doors out of that. That way, you would be able to see the inside of the doors. Of course then..everything would have to be aligned to the pic you use, so that might be more trouble than its worth. Yeah. It's just weird. If I did get one of the new bees, it would be nitro, as it is the mort different from what I have, but I am not buying any new BB unless for some reason I bring back the clone army. Yeah but that is just another credit to beast wars great writing. You understand each character completely, whereas somne of the g1 guys were rather one-dimensional. Awesome, you can't have rattrap without that line. Transmetal is a good choice. Probably the most usefull of all the rattrap toys. Bm is good.just way to huge, the original looks kinda crappy. Awesome. Yeah it is. Even when i do show everyone at once, only a few will be talking. I don't want to have to shrink my text is I don't have to. Yeah...let's just say they are curious enough when I am shooting an update. lol Yeah, like i said, just do it when you can...don't force it. Yeah. But that article is why i never hunted that toy down. I should try to track down that weird armada predacon repaint of it. To at least have the mold. And its colors kinda match the weird cybertron-tenth anniversary megs I have. Yeah, I never saw that screamer, I really wanted it too. The mold has some issues, but I'm a sucker for jets so I love it. He's one of the few that stay in altmode most of the time. Last year was weird for that, I went form having NO skywarp's to three of them. (MP,Movie, and animated). I'm still kicking myself over not getting a classics skywarp. He is gonna end up being the only seeker I don't have a classics mold for. Na...that's not my style. lol Mostley because I have a lot of story already planned out to carry the comic through most of this year. That kind of thing might clash with my plans. I get the feeling your bludgeon would be way to serious for my crazy world. lol Plus then people would confuse him with biff... Yeah, sentinal is pretty much the only one that looks on par with what came before. I kinda want that chopper guy though. I can't remember his name- that rotor transformation is brilliant. Plus after tomahawk, i wouldn't mind another attack chopper in the ranks.
I have some of the update shot, but need to take more pics (which I'll be doing tonight... not sure if I'll get them all taken though). I'm still optimistic about getting the Update up by late Monday night, but can't promise anything. I didn't interpret it as you arguing. & you may not have to worry about it... Not saying why, as it'd ruin a few things. If I was going to do that, I'd just use Armada Jetfire, as his Cargo Bay doors do open... But I'm more likely to copy Astrotrain's exterior doors, then 'shop them to mirror them & use the inverted images for the doors open... I don't see any point in getting any of the other 'Bees when the Cliffjumper I have is the best mold, & I have the Classic Camero for Bumblebee. That, & Beast Wars is probably my favorite of all the series. But I'm not that great at humor, so Rattrap being sarcastic & a wisecracker will challenge me. Of course. & considering what's about to happen, it's a perfect fit for the scene... & I might work it in TWICE in the same update, legitamately! That never happened in the show! Same ep., maybe; same conversation/ scene, never. Well, this next update has a lot of unseen before characters talking about what just happened... & I worked out just how to do that, w/o increasing the panel count... Though, it does still increase the # of pics I have to take... Pol's roommate's(?) cat appears to be curious about what he's doing when he shoots too... Part of it has appeared in a few panels... Well, I got the first 1/2 shot... But didn't like how 1/2 of those came out, so I'll be reshooting the conversation bits (2nd half of what was taken)... hopefully w/ better lighting. I can't be sure if I'll get it up by Monday, like I was hoping, but it's still possible. The pics I've 'shopped were effects heavy. There are some other effects panels later too, but not nearly as bad. & then I have to 'shop Op, due to his mishap, every time he appears. Though, I think I've worked out how to do that too... Still not sure if he's going to Planet Arus too or not, as that depends on how hard he is to work w/ this update. I didn't know that mold was used in Armada. I know Rhinox & Airrazor's TransMetals were (I have those), but not Megatron! Is that Cybertron-10th Anniversary Megs the Deluxe of his original form w/ the Cyber-Planet Key? 'Cause I got that when my TransMetal one broke. Isn't Skywarp the one being released w/ this new wave of Generations? Don't think it's Thundercracker, but I could be wrong. Yeah, he is pretty intense & in his right mind. Though there's no way his personality could be confused w/ Biff. I'd like Tomahawk, but Generations has 3 or 4 figures I'd really like, & has priority. & Sentinel Prime looks a little simpler than RotF Leader Optimus Prime, but not by too much. I know I saw a review for the chopper you're talking about, but my head injury is keeping me from remembering it.
Yeah, that way would probably be best. yeah. Yeah, but he's rattrap-shouldn't be too hard to write for. As long as he makes some sarcastic comment. Sweet! lol. I have never accidentally got them in a shot for the comic. No I am really curious about MP prime. Quote: Yup he sure was! Predacon (Armada) - Transformers Wiki I wanted to get him for the mold, but missed him as I didn't really get a lot of tfs during armada. Mostlky tru g1 reissues that year. Yeah that's the one. I like it a lot, but I wish I had gotten the purple one and not the green one. Nah, it's thundercracker who's coming out. I may have to get two and try my hand at repainting one into skywarp. Yeah. Yeah. I want sentinal, but I doubt I will have the funds for him this year. Yeah, i can't remeber his name either.
*edit* The update is finished. But my head hurts too much to mine the URLs to post it. It should be up tonight, when I get back up. Well, at the very least, you should enjoy his dialog in this update. ^_^ He tries to 'shop it out, but missed the tail at least once. I didn't catch that the cat was in it at all till someone pointed it out. You really shouldn't be... 1) I told you already & 2) it should be obvious... But if it isn't, all the more surprise for you. Strange colors... & interesting he has 2 Minicons. I think I saw the green one too, but I got the purple one. Not really a stand in for Megatron if he's green... I think there's been talk of a possible reissue/ general release of Skywarp... Could just be wishful thinking... But if Hasbro reads these boards, it could become a selffulfilling prophecy. Ditto. I wasn't talking about the name. I was talking about what he looks like & how he transforms.
Update 13: Convoy of Primes I had to shoot this update over a several sessions, 'shopping periodically. Finally, a Multiversal Singularity ReAwakens. [aanchor=VectorPrime]Details on usage after the update. (click to jump to it)[/aanchor] Update 13: Convoy of Primes [aname]VectorPrime[/aname] Note 1: Vector Prime Usage details: Vector Prime originates from Crystal Convoy's comic. Being a Multiversal Singularity, there is only one of him active across all Alternities. I did get Crystal Convoy's permission to use him. He was not being used, & has canonically forgotten his past, but my ideas for him & CC's were compatable. Or you can use his show bio, which doesn't differ too much. He should also be treated as the Vector Prime from the Cybertron series, Eons after the events in the show. Crystal Convoy used him prior to the series. However, Vector Prime has been dormant for Eons. So his memory is a little shakey. I'm trying to give him a personality like Rhinox's older brother may have, as I can't recall if his personality differed on the show or not: One of Ancient knowledge, great wisdom, an overdeveloped since of Duty & Chivalry. (Rhinox if he were a Knight of the Round Table wouldn't be too far off.) Canonically, Vector Prime uses ancient words, long forgotten. I'll be checking an online thesaurus for origins of certain words, when I think to. Contact me for points in Vector Prime's life that take place AFTER Cybertron or that don't have a Fallen. You may need to contact Crystal Convoy for comics earlier (as he may still remember his past then) or that include a Fallen, as it is possible that the Fallen may awaken memories from Vector Prime's past. He's forgotten it all, & I haven't read Crystal Convoy's comic. If the Fallen isn't an issue, being that he's a time traveller, you should be able to get by just by contacting me. There may be other Vector Prime toys, due to Hasbro using a crashed Autobot Rescue Shuttle's databank on known TFs & their Alt. modes for toy designs in my (& I expect others' soon) Alternity, but THIS Vector Prime ISN'T a toy. His control over Space & ability to Mass Shift allows him to scale w/ a local population. Vector Prime is one of the Original 13 TransFormers, specially appointed by Primus himself Guardian of Time & Space. His powers can be found on his TFWiki page or here (2nd link is probably more useful). His sword, Rhisling, can cut a portal between dimentions or otherwise destablize the fabric of reality. His Cyber Planet Key activates his Time Stopping special ability, which drains him of Energon quickly & can warp an Alterity, causing damge, destablizing it. This page has specifics on his abilities. Or you can contact me, as I'll be compiling a list later. He carries the most powerful gun in existance: the Requiem Blaster (original/ blue, black & white), to keep it out of the hands of those who would misuse it & as it's power source (stars & similar) can augment his powers if he's running low. If for some reason you don't have the Space Minicon Team/ Requiem Blaster, be sure to let me know, so they can be dropped off in my Alternity till you're done w/ him. Vector Prime has sworn an Oath of non-interference unless an Alternity is in unnatural/ extra-dimentional danger. If their time stream, continuity or existance is jeparodized by someone from another Alternity (say Pol's Sideways sells a nuke to one side), then Vector Prime may step in & provide limited assistance to the extent of removing the extra-dimentional element. Unicron can count as an Extra-dimentional threat, as Unicron & Primus are both supposed to be Multiversal Singularities too. Time travel within an Alternity can only be considered a reason for intervention if the time travel severely affects the continuity of the Alternity, like when Marty (Hot Rod) in Ripoff's Anonymous screwed up the future into that of the Terminator movies. Ectoneon has requested his Vector Prime be retroactively considered this one. To be THIS Vector Prime, you must use a white mold of him, preferably the original US release. Because Vector Prime is a time traveller, he can be in multiple comics simultaneously. However, if this happens, due to his noninterference Oath, he will not disclose the events of another Alternity, & will act or have forgotten the events of the other comic. Comics that have interwoven elements, like Pol' Warring at Play & Chaos Incarnate's Prime Time, Vector Prime may recall the events, & even state he knows of both sides, but unless it is absolutely necessary to resolve an issue, still will not disclose what is happening in another Alternity to anyone not from that Alternity. So, he may disclose events about someone's home Alternity to them in other Alternities. Unlikely example: Chaos' Strarf & Pol's Swindle would fit into this exception. (note, this Vector Prime has NOT appeared in either Warring at Play nor Prime Time. Prime Time started w/ Rhisling sending Galaxy Force Convoy to the past, so he may or may not use him in the future. As far as I know, it isn't likely.) Also, Vector Prime's time travel & dimention hopping abilities are tied to his Sword, so he MUST have Rhisling to get to other comics. His Time Stop power is tied to his Planet Key. W/o the Planet Key, he can't stop time temporarily. & if you do have him stop time, unless he channels the Requiem Blaster's energy into himself, it can only last a short time (how long is yet to be determined at this time), critically drains him of Energon, & the longer time is stopped, the more the Alternity warps. Vector Prime DOES NOT permanently wear his Planet Key. It must be summoned for use (I cut it out & use a simple Linear blur & drop the opacity for the effects). His Key activates his more powerful abilities, some of which can wreck an Alternity w/ prolonged use (i.e. stopping time for more than a minute or 3 is a REALLY bad idea). He also rarely uses the Key. Powers the Key accesses (in order of least dangerous to last ditch emergency destructive -- This list will be modified as I work out his powers): Temporal Sight/ Vision: non-destructive, but can drive Vector insane if used over a prolonged time frame. It allows him to see across all of the Multiverse & Time. When he first activates his Temporal Sight, it is uncontrolable. Visions from all dimentions & multiple, random points in Time floods his Processor. He must focus to see a particular event. Temporal Sight is not perfect. Due to the strain on his processor & the MASSIVE amount of data, details could be missed. Temporal Sight/ Vision also doesn't account for changes after Vector Prime arrives to try to fix the damage. It is possible that his influence has unforeseen consequences. Though rare, it is possible that Vector Prime's interference leads to the disaster he went to try to prevent. THIS REQUIRES DIRECT INPUT & APPROVAL FROM ME. Vector Prime natually possesses a Probability sub-processor that allows a VERY limited use of this power w/o the Planet Key. This limited version is only effective across related or linked Alternities & is only accurate for seeing under 1 hour into the future, w/ limited focus on limited numbers of individuals. He cannot see the whole picture w/o the Planet Key] (more powers to be added as I figure them out) Time Stop. Stopping time for more than a few seconds is inadvisable. Stopping time for a full minute will warp the dimention it's used in (contact me for details, have the details of the physics of your Universe ready: i.e. A Shadow Dimention will suffer different effects than a normal one, toy scale is different than 30+ ft. TF scale); using it for more than 3 minutes can start screwing up the flow of Time. Use for 5 minutes starts affecting the dimentional boundries ("wall" between dimentions). This section may be changed as I learn more of Vector Prime or come up w/ more details. As with Pol's Sideways, you cannot kill Vector Prime. He functions beyond the normal range of Space & Time, & if he is critically damaged, he retreats into the Void, outside of time, to make repairs. It is prefered you don't critically damage Vector Prime. He, like the Doctor, can see possible futures, & if he's likely to be destroyed, he WILL NOT take the course of action that would result in his destruction. Also, Vector Prime doesn't reveal that he isn't a toy when among toys, & speaks as if he is one at times. I use AR BLANCA Thin font (which I'm failrly sure is a Font available w/ Windows), in elliptical white bubbles, w/ the text centered, for Vector Prime's speech bubbles. Here is the portal I use for Vector Prime. It is a .png w/ transparent background, so it's ready to be pasted behind clipped out characters (the portion of my Tutorial for clipping out characters can be found here): I am still developing Vector Prime, so this list may expand as I do. There is a link to this update in the first post marked for using the Multiversal Singulariy. Note 2: The new Faction Change Panel took a while to make. I had to experiment & learn how to use Gimp's Transform Tool. I have a similar cube made for the Decepticons too. Note 3: That portal effect was made from scratch. Let me know how you like it. When you use Vector Prime in other comics, you should copy that portal effect, if you can. A simple cut & paste should do it, but you can always request an image file from me on a white background, if needs be. Note 4: I've had Vector Prime explaining the "true" origin of Voltron planned before I started working on the comic. Though, I had originally wanted them to be flying in him... But things change when you finally get to doing them. Note 5: Let me know how MP Optimus looks. Every panel he had to be 'shopped & resized. & let me know who all expected him to be shrunk by the Overload of the Mass Shifter. Note 6: & if you hadn't worked it out, the Narrations to this point have been Animated Hot Rod & MP Optimus explaining to Vector Prime the specifics of what happened prior to his arrival.
By far this is getting good. I like how you're using Vector Prime, very nice. And that Voltron was on product of Primus very interesting. So great work.
Pretty sweet stuff. Rattrap's lines were perfect. I especially liked the shut up rattrap moment. Nice faction switching cube there. I love how you have interwoven voltron's origin with that of the transformers. I dig it. Pretty well thought-out. MP prime is shrunken huh? I really should have seen that coming lol. The first panel with him was kinda iffy-he stands out a bit...but the rest of the group shots with him after that are pretty spot on. Talk about making some work for yourself though. I like that movie jetfire gets an appearance, as when they said jetfire, I was expecting him to be armada. And vector prime FTW. I guess I should have seen that one coming too, but i figured it would be the fallen. The portal was pretty nice, and I like what you are doing with making him one character across the various comics around here. So can this retro-actively apply to the vector prime that showed in my comic? I think it pretty much followed the rules you laid out, as he was there to stop a danger to the time-stream. I ask because there is a slight chance he may reappear at some point later on due to the time travel nature of my story. Here is the page he appeared on if you don't remember- http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-funnies/285637-ripoffs-anonymous-35.html Yeah, It was pretty awesome. And spot on. Yeah, I really should have known that was coming. Yeah, they had to make him fit the line. But of all the toys to get 2-he gets em. Kinda weird. Still though, I think hunting that one down would be my best bet to ever get my hands on that mold. I got the green one because it was cheaper. The purple one had the dvd with it, and was more expensive. I did spring for the properly colored primal to go with that megatron though. I don't mind it to much, as my stand in for megatron before was beast machines t-wrecks, so I'm pretty much used to having my bw :"megatrons" be the wrong colors. I wouldn't mind it in the least. I have all the coneheads now, and two scremaer's. Generations will ensure thundercracker...so skywarp is really needed. Oh, got you. It's the one where the rotor sorta make an x on his chest and then fold back around his shoulders. Plus i really like the idea of the attack chopper. Tomahawk wouldhave shown in my comic already, but I got one with stupid black paint slop on the face, so that's a no-go.
Well, if I'm going to do Rattrap right, "We're all gonna die" must be followed by "Shut up Rattrap", or it isn't as funny. & here wasn't that hard to do lines. It's his spontaneous irrevernt remarks that will be hard... I wanted to have Primus comment on Rattrap being " optimistic as usual", but the flow didn't support adding it in... Thanks. It wasn't easy to do. The Autobot one came out better than the Decepticons' for some reason. @.@ Nothing major, but it was my first time using the Transform Tool in Gimp (could've had something to do w/ my inverting the cube, but I don't think so). Making one face Gold was an afterthought, once I remembered that Animated used Gold & Silver, instead of Red & Purple. Well, Voltron's origin was only partly spelled out in Voltron. & I incorporated everything I knew, & expanded on the obvious (ex. it was never stated that King Alfor changed the Pedastool for Black Lion, but it was at least implied that he had the tunnels dug out to get to the Lions; but how wasn't addressed, which is where Vector's intervention pushed things along). But since who Voltron was made by wasn't clear, why not say Primus did it? I did have to look up the Original 13, & then the Covenant, & a few other things (didn't know about the Covenant AT ALL) to get it right, but it seemed a natural connection to make. & Vector's part here & Nightstick's in the previous update were what hit me when I did my [intended as a Spoof] Sig. The first few I took some stock shots to work with. After the faction cube, I knew I needed to have his angles different, so I took a pic w/ him & one w/o, like I should always do. It isn't too hard, but getting his edges clean is iffy. Well, he is the resident ex-Decepticon. His insight is invaluable to the Council. I only have TransMetal 2 Dinobot, so I can't really get away w/ him being good, if I'm sticking to show personalities. I don't know why you would expect Armada. He wasn't in the Convoy. (granted, movie Jetfire didn't come out too well due to getting the lighting right was hard). Btw, speaking of "Convoy" how are my Update Titles? I tend to make them up when I post, but playing on Convoy came to me either before I started shooting or as soon as I lined up my Optimuses, IIRC. (Also, it wasn't too long since I watched the Prime ep. of Convoy.) & is my trying to have different fonts associated w/ specific characters helping any? I've been keeping quiet on Vector. Didn't want to spoil it. I'm debating how long to keep him around. The original intent was to get the "true" Legend of Voltron told while everyone was in transit in Vector, & after he dropped them off on Arus, he'd leave, but that didn't really make sense now that I got to his reveal. & I don't have a Fallen, don't care for the Movies, & it seems the Fallen is being over used of late. I'm hoping to set Vector up as a nemesis of Pol's Sideways. Thanks. It took me a bit to get it right. In my tests, I had one I liked better (the white was more evenly blurred into an interesting pattern), but figuring I could reproduce it exactly by doing the exact same things didn't work out. But when I played w/ the hue of this one, I got it to luminess like that. I CAN reproduce that one... since every test I ran tended to default to that pattern. I forgot you used him. I don't see why he couldn't've been the same one. But he seemed a bit off to me, & didn't have the Requiem Blaster. Think 'Older Rhinox' when you're doing his dialog if he's going to be mine. & considering he's a time traveller, his appearing in yours before Primus woke him up isn't really an issue. I hope to show people walking through my portal soon... No sense flying if he'd been ordered to transport the AEG & the strike force. & technically, he already was available to all comic makers. I had to seek him out, 'cause I had a feeling at least one person had used him cannonically. I made a post in the Federation of Funnies Creators Social Group, HEAVILY blacked out, & quickly got a couple replies. Well, since Rattrap IS one of my Favorite characters (probably need to have my profile reflect that), knowing how he'd react is child's play. It's timing the jokes, getting the snide comments right, & getting him to interact that will be challenging. But Rattrap is the best at everything this mission is going to require: infiltration, stealth, recon, I'll have to do demolishions (try a BIG explosion), code cracking, hacking... The only thing keeping him from being a Ninja is his complete lack of discipline & total disreguard for Authority. Ignoring that I told you... come on, I called the machine a Mass Shifter! When TFs Mass Shift, what do they do? The only other Armada figure to come w/ 2 Minicons was Sideways, the page said. I thought about grabbing Primal too, but he didn't look accurate enough to the show, so I didn't. It was AMAZING how accuate Beast Wars toys were to their Animation models. Unprecedented. Still doesn't sound familiar.
I was transforming & getting familiar w/ a figure that has been in storage for years in preperation for potentially the next update, & it broke! banghead: & I don't mean in a way that could be expected! It broke at the ball joint, & not the ball! The Ball Socket, which is supposed to pop out instead of break, broke! The part is goldish, so maybe it's more GPS? Luckily, it doesn't affect the core robot & the altmode can still hold together real well, but the kibble will no longer remain attached in robot robot where it belongs... I can work out a way to still store the now loose piece in robot mode & still use it, but it isn't right. This isn't the first time a piece broke, but that piece wasn't important & would probably not be missed in the comic. A similar insignificant piece has now become loose too. @.@ Looks like this TransFormer has a new weapon... The part that broke was in an involved part of the transformation w/ tight tolerances, & my head injury probably was playing a part in why I was having trouble getting it in the right sequence/ position, so I understand what happened, but it was a BALL JOINT!
