Generations FOC Minion 2-Packs: Rumble/Ravage & Frenzy/Ratbat

THIS, I played with the Laserbeak and Ratbat for a while doing this.

Otherwise I am glad to have them but I think on the shelf they will end up just being in their respective cases mostly. Ratbat and Laserbeak will be out but will just use my Universe Ravage and United Frenzy/Rumble to go with SW.

Nice toys just an awkward gimmick.

While I was excited about these, when I saw them in person I realized that their failings otuweighed their pros. I saved my cash and purchased the Snitch and the Purrdator instead for my deluxe Soundwave... I think they are a better bang for my buck compared to these guys

I think I'm going return the two sets and get my 18 bucks back. I don't use the ejecting feature and I kinda don't like how they look

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Too much was compromised to fit in the ejecting and auto-transformation gimmick. Spring loaded features just don't work for TFs.

Picked up both of these packs at two different TrUs yesterday, along with Soundwave. I have to say, limited articulation aside, Im impressed. Ratbat is probably my favorite of the bunch, which is funny for me since Ravage is my favorite of the cassettes. The cases are a great little bonus both for storage and as a nice little stand-in for Energon Cubes.

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I can certainly understand the harsh criticisms that others have had after having picked up both sets, but I'm still pleased with them.

Yes, I'm not a fan of all the sacrifices that were made for the autotransformation and gimmick on both Soundblaster/wave and the disks. That said, it's a little fun at times and these are toys.

Taking that into consideration, I still enjoy all of them but one.

Ratbat is totally awesome. He's by a very narrow margin my favorite. He autotransforms very well, he locks well into alt mode, he's got it all IMHO. He even has a seperate body from the birds.

Buzzsaw is second, but only so by a very narrow margin. Mine is now on the shoulder of FOC Shockwave, which makes them both look extra badass.

Rumble/Frenzy are nifty little dudes. The extra steps in their transformation isn't really much of a turnoff. They look cool and have really clever transformations. I like the extra little detail in that the data disk design isn't replicated, it's mirrored on them.

Ravage. Le Sigh. I honestly thought I was going to break Ravage the first time I transformed him, those rear haunches just didn't want to rotate in. He sticks everywhere, in the case he's got to be upsidedown or the case won't close, he is a major pain to get into Soundblasters chest, and I swear requires more force then any other disk to get out. His alt mode is pretty bad as well.

I just got these. I actually like Ravage and Ratbat a lot, but Frenzy and Rumble are pretty meh. Do you guys actually transform Ravage like on the packaging? He looks a billion times better if you only leave him half transformed so that his back piece and back hips are still folded into the body. The only problem is that he won't have a tail.

These are buy 1 get one 50% off at TRU right now and I've been considering getting them before the sale runs out. I've been wondering if neutering the spring gimmick will give them more articulation, has anyone tried it yet? I could care less about putting them back in soundwave, since the gimmick is crap anyways.

I wouldn't say a billion times better.

It does look a bit more solid in this half-mode, but a quarter-UNtransformation is about as annoying as finishing the job fully after popping. Looks a lot like a walking coffee table. (or you can flip the back down and give him a big paddle-tail like a beaver.)

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I much prefer "walking coffee table" over the skeletal and flimsy looking official mode.