Generations FOC Minion 2-Packs: Rumble/Ravage & Frenzy/Ratbat

So, the launching auto-transform gimmick --which has obviously taken a huge toll on these guys' designs-- doesn't even work all the way? Feh...

How do these bots look with the Deluxe Soundwave? Obviously they won't store or anything, but is the scale still decent?

Kreon Art Thread -- Transformers Scale Project -- Kreon Parts Database

Lmao....I totally laughed at that

these guys... look terrible, to be frank. especially for the price.

I disagree, considering that they are Legion-sized figures designed to be used with a Voyager toy. I also think Ratbat, Laserbeak and Buzzsaw look pretty great and Ravage in very intuitively designed. The toys are all still very recognizable and I've come to terms with the price myself, considering that's what we pay for 2 Legions, which is basically what these two-packs are.

these look pretty great to me. I definitely plan on getting them all, and I can see needing to get a couple extras of Ratbat for my daughter, or they're going to steal mine.

maybe i've been spoiled by the amazing engineering of the prime legions but something about these rubs me the wrong way... rumble/frenzy especially because of those crapshoot limbs. the fliers look alright, kind of thin, and ravage looks good, if .. i dunno, awkward?

to each their own of course, but these things just don't look good enough to buy for me. the spring-open gimmick is cool but it affects some of them negatively (again, the fremble twins).

Scaling's not great for the birds and Ratbat, but pretty good for Rumble, Frenzy and Ravage.

^ Wow, that turned out a lot better than I thought it would.

Kreon Art Thread -- Transformers Scale Project -- Kreon Parts Database

I have not played War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron, how accurate are Frenzy and Rumble to their game design? Besides the head, is there any effort made to try to match them to their game design? I know for sure Laserbeak is completely different; Buzzsaw and Ratbat are not in the games right?

I am in a dilemma because I only want the game accurate toys. I can accept Sideswipe because at least they put in the effort to make sure the vehicle mode is accurate, and the robot mode is decent. But definitely not Ultra Magnus and Air Raid; those are just lazy.

Not super accurate, but well enough. The molded details on their chests is pretty close to how they appeared in the game, but not accurate colouring, because the joints are unpainted. The arms and legs are parts of the disc, so they're not accurate.
And yeah, Ratbat and Ravage do not appear in the game, but there is artwork on the packaging that shows how they would've looked like if they had been in the game; however, the toys resemble their Earth versions.

Sideswipe is actually quite accurate as Jazz was always a modification of his body in both games. The problem you have with Air Raid is because that is not a toy of Air Raid at all; It's actually Fireflight and was advertised as such when first revealed. I don't know why they've decided to call him Air Raid now, but he is definitely meant to be pre-Earth Fireflight.