Universe 2.0 Bruticus Maximus

They weren't popular. They were warming shelves, the line was tanking in its last few months. The reason the were Wal-Mart exclusives is by that point, no one else would order the damned things. They weren't developed to be exclusives. They were defaulted to exclusives because that's the only way they could sell them (see also: RiD Megabolt, RiD Bruticus, and the aforementioned Grimlock and Prowl Titaniums for variations on the same).

And Robovision was a repaint . Sure, it technically came out before the mass release version, but that doesn't mean anything. It was a figure designed for mass-market release, got a mass-market release, and hey, it got a couple of exclusives and a mass-market redeco on top of that too.

In which case you'd be flat-out wrong.

Tastes will vary from person to person, that's fine. But don't pretend to know how Hasbro should be running their line. What they've been doing has worked out pretty darned well for them thus far.

actually, in that thread the guy who started it found some more information-last time i checked that thread, it was stated from the same source that that wasnt completely true-only one doesnt have a bot mode, and thats the crane-probably for a gimmick weapon.

i think...id have to check the thread

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...adformers.html

The end result is that this is just Hasbro's cheap attempt to put something out there that they think is 25th anny worthy and it's really not. I'm glad that people do like this mold and because of me there will be plenty of them out there as I will not be picking this up.

I think that Hasbro could have done a much better job at this. They have already released Onslaught as a brand new mold. Why couldn't they make an adjustment and then release the other four Combaticons in new molds where they can combine? WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO FATHOM???? I know I know, I'm just a "GeeWun" fan, but this could have happened. In my opinion the whole A/E/C line was completely crap and I try not to even think about it.

Hasbro could have done something great here with brand new 25th Anniversary Combiners of Superion and Bruticus and instead they go with old Energon molds and just re-colored and re-named them. This to me is a giant Hasbro

Correct me if I'm wrong but by that time I think they were almost ready to cancel the alternators line as it's not popular among the "target audience" but they already had Ravage & Rumble made so they released them as exclusives.

We've been over this already. Because of the way Transformers are sold, Combiners are really hard to get on the shelves properly now. Perhaps in full giftsets or something, but those would be big and expensive, and hog up slots for other large figures that are planned. And Universe isn't the mainline, so there's fewer molds being developed for it.

IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. Hasbro's tried to drill it into us year after year. They do their best to do combiners in some way, but the logistics of such are not the same as they were back in G1, and current market trends and such prevent it from happening.

HASBRO IS NOT STUPID. Again, a good number of their development team is made up of fans themselves, that are well in tune with what the rest of the fans want. What can realistically be delivered, however, is a far cry from that.

Well then they need to fire their current development team and hire new ones because they are doing a piss poor job on what the fans really want.

i think also one of the problems with combiners is that if done, they'd be alot like Universe 2.0 Ironhide-too much happening at once. which is perfect for the movie line

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...adformers.html

New Molds? Check
Sold only in exclusive Store? Check
I guess I WAS RIGHT..

New Mold? Check
Only sold exclusive in Store? Check

RIGHT AGAIN

In which case YOU'D be flat-out wrong.

I dont really care why they were exclusives or if they got released again recolored..They were an exclusive of a new mold. Period.

Wwhos to saythey can't do a new mold of a combiner for a exclusive..thatst the point.

They can.

I can agree to disagree.. That cool.

But that's not their top priority, it's making money which means catering to their target audience, little kids. While on occasion they do try & please us with stuff like Classics, they can only do so much reasonably without losing profit.

I agree that making money should always be their top priority, but it's like they are not even trying when it comes to combiners. I rememeber people who saw that they were going to release Silverbolt and Onslaught in brand new Classics molds and the first question everyone had was "Will they release the other four so that it can combine?" If the research people did even a little bit of research, they would see that probably a majority of fans wanted new molds to combine. Something that resembles G1 combiners because after all, the Classics line was and is a homage of G1.

Again, my argument is that if they can create and market new molds for Ironhide, Sunstreaker, Etc. then they could have easily created new molds for the other four team members of the combiners group. Once again, this is not too far fetched. To me this was Hasbro phoning it in saying "Screw new molds for combiners and just give them what we already have and oh, paint it and rename it while you are at it"