Universe/Classics 2.0 Ironhide feedback thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Feedback & Reviews' started by Peaugh, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. QmTablit

    QmTablit BotBot in the what, I said BotBot in the what

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    I'm starting to think I'm the only person whose never had an issue with sticky paint. One any figure.

    *knocks on wood*
     
  2. Xhairs

    Xhairs Well-Known Member

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    nope im right there with you lol.
     
  3. Dremare

    Dremare It's pronounced "dreh-mare"

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    I never had a problem with sticky paint either, except on Prowl. His paint wasn't just sticky, it was rubbing off. I guess now I have to get a Silverstreak/Bluestreak.
     
  4. Cheebs

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    I have never not gotten sticky paint on the current suspects!

    Animated Soundwave: Sticky

    Universe Bluestreak: Sticky

    Two Universe Prowls: Sticky and rubbing off

    Universe Arn'haad: Sticky and rubbing off
     
  5. Galaxy Convoy

    Galaxy Convoy Well-Known Member

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    Same here. Maybe there's a second running change happening before the blue face fix?

    No "sticky" paint either, what little there is anyway.
     
  6. Philister

    Philister Teutonicons Rising!

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    My take on Ironhide:

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    Universe Ironhide

    for more pics, click on the link above

    Robot Mode: G1 Ironhide is one of the most beloved Transformers characters, but he never got a decent robot mode to go with it. So when an Ironhide figure was announced for the Universe line, I was ecstatic. Sadly, the reality didn't live up to my hopes. Because Ironhide's robot mode is, at best, so-so. But let's look at the details.

    Ironhide has decent posability and little restrictions in regards to movement, no problems here. But that's pretty much where the good news stop. The detailing, while more or less decent, is not up the standard of the Universe line and several things really bother me. For one: Why are all the screws in the arms and shoulders at the front? Why does he have a blue face? Why does the head not fully extend from the torso, making him look down all the time? These are just a few things that really drag this figure down for me.

    Also, Ironhide is a jumble of loose parts once you stop looking at him from the front. His legs are somewhat reminiscent of Movie Swindle in that they are almost hollow, connected just by small hinges. They're solid, but they don't look it. Ironhide's weapon also reminds me of the Movie line, that of Movie Bumblebee, to be exact. The gun mode is okay, but why a sword? Finally, there is his colours. Okay, Ironhide is supposed to be red, no question. But I think a darker red would have suited him better. Besides, this is the exact shade of red that photographs worst (hence the somewhat lacking quality of the pics above). Red doesn't photograph well at the best of times, but this shade here really hurts my camera.

    So the bottom line here is: This robot mode here actually makes me pause and consider whether or not G1 Ironhide might be the better robot.

    Alternate Mode: This mode is where Ironhide shows his primary weakness: He's just a puzzle of parts. Looking at the side of the car mode, all you see is pieces. Looking at the car from the front makes it look more or less okay, but from just about any other angle it is barely tolerable. I wrote above that some of the robot mode designs reminded me of Movie Swindle, but Swindle managed a much more wholesome and solid vehicle mode. So I won't mince words here: Definitely the worst vehicle mode I've seen in Classics/Universe so far.

    Remarks: I don't think I've ever owned a Transformers figures where there was this big a diffence between what I hoped for and what I actually got. The bottom line here is, Ironhide is bad. Oh, he's certainly not the worst Transformers figure ever made, far from it. But compared to the high standard of the other Classics/Universe figures and compared to my hopes for finally getting a decent Ironhide toy, he disappoints severely. His robot mode is so-so, his vehicle mode is just plain bad, and he offers little to redeem any of that. And I doubt the Henkei version will be much better, because a non-blue face and a different paint job won't fix the problems of this mold.

    So all I can really say is this: If you're a hardcore Ironhide fan or a Classics/Universe completist, then you might want to get this figure. If not, leave it be. As for me, I was planning to get the inevitable Ratchet repaint as well, but after having seen this figure here, I won't bother. Maybe I'll get another two Energon Towlines instead and do my own repaints.

    Rating: D+
     
  7. pscoop

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    It's cool they are fixing the face. I wish I had waited, but I don't like the figure enough to buy it twice. Bot mode is nice, but I just can't get the vehicle mode to go together right. I'm not ruling our operator error though.
     
  8. AniProwl

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    A little fragile, but great toy

    A-
     
  9. QmTablit

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    I refuse to call that thing a "sword." It's a shank as far as I'm concerned.

    But for Ironhide, I keep it gun-side out. Shank-side is going on Ratchet. Like a big soldering iron or something.
     
  10. Xhairs

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    so anyone find the sliver face yet????
     
  11. Angelwave

    Angelwave Physical Maintenance.....

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    I was wondering the same thing. I noticed that the case assortment has been updated to accommodate more Ironhides now. So the possibility might be there.
     
  12. Xhairs

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    thats what i think but not sure and dont want to buy him and find out he is blue lol.
     
  13. nemesisconvoy

    nemesisconvoy Gundam Pilot TFW2005 Supporter

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    I just got this guy today and I do agree that he needs help. His colors suck but thst just paint, that's easy. Can anyone direct me to the easiest way to fix the head/neck tilt?
     
  14. Matt Booker

    Matt Booker Fantasy Adventure Author

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    There's a few different ways, from fan modes to cutting the middle pieces to backpack and neck mods.

    You can check out my guide over at MattBooker.info to have an Ironhide that looks like this...

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    or check around in the Radicons section for other people's interpretations.

    I'm a bit biased, but my guide does give Ironhide the most human proportions. :) 

    ~Matt Booker
     
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    Matt, I would really be grateful and enjoy your guide posted in Radicons. We love making tutorials and resources of things like this, and if the thread is posted properly in Radicons, it certainly makes our job a little easier. If I can be of help, please let me know. Thanks! :) 
     
  16. Matt Booker

    Matt Booker Fantasy Adventure Author

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    I've already talked with Redline about it. :)  Hopefully later this week I'll have a basic version posted in Radicons. It'll be just the nitty gritty, with all the funny stuff over at my site.

    Radicons has some pretty cool customs. I just try to fix things and make a mold as good as it should be.

    ~Matt Booker
     
  17. Valkysas

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    got ironhide today. sticky paint doesnt seem to be a problem. it's not glossy, but it feels exactly the same as the red paint on animated prime.

    blue face has to go, though. that's happening later today.
     
  18. nemesisconvoy

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    I came up with a fix that makes him taller that Sunstreaker and no crotch sticking out. Heres what I did (sorry no pics yet).
    1.) Shaved the inside of the spine.
    2.)reversed the crotch (NOT THE SPINE JUST THR CROTCH)...made it up-side down
    3.) Dis-connected the bumper,at the bumper, from the inner chest panel (you have to hammer out the pin).
    4.) Super glued the inner chest panel in place in the back window.
    5.) I left off the flipping up of the rear wheels (they are at his sides).

    All of this and the head sits perfect and his perportions r great.
     
  19. RavX

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    HTS has Ironhide back in stock finally .... if anyone buys him - let us know if they implemented the rolling face paint change :) 
     
  20. Matt Booker

    Matt Booker Fantasy Adventure Author

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    My main concern with something like that is, does his crotch become a skinny waist? With the hips now on the bottom, it seems like the new waist piece would be too much contrast to his big red girth.

    Plus, the chest panel is my favorite part of the transformation.

    But, the great thing about Ironhide being so busted is that there's enough ways of fixing him that people can find a way they like, whether it's leaving the wheels down or reversing the crotch or leaving him the way he is out of package. :D 

    ~Matt Booker