Titans Return Deluxe Scourge (1)

Discussion in 'Transformers Feedback & Reviews' started by unicronic, Jun 25, 2016.

  1. Gilgamesh

    Gilgamesh Mostly Harmless

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    I doubt this is the OP's case so I don't know why you would say that.
     
  2. unicronic

    unicronic Well-Known Member

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    It's not the complexity but the aesthetics. This Scourge looks better proportioned for me. The head could do with some more color but the alt mode and robot mode just seems to hit the G1 Scourge vibe with a bit of updating here and there.

    Not a clue either. I'm a fan and am sharing my thoughts in the spirit of community.
     
  3. LoserBroadside

    LoserBroadside Your ship just came in.

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    It's funny I was fiddling with Generations Scourge just last week and lamenting to Smokescreen38 that Scourge, Gen Kup, RTS Perceptor, RTS Wrek-Gar, and the like all felt dated.

    They're very much products of their time: an era of dramatic head reveals and overly complex transformations that, going back to them, I find less fun and more frustrating. Really fiddly with tight clearances and parts that pop off all the time (Scourge's left wing, for example). Gen Scourge's arm transformation is way more complex than it needed to be. And I'm someone who LOVED RID Sideburn and Alt. Smokescreen.

    Maybe I'm just getting old, but I've come to really enjoy elegant transformations over complex ones. And these Titans deluxes look like the perfect mix of elegant and satisfying.

    It was also an era of shoehorning G1 characters into modern real-world vehicles. Galvatron as a modded version of a real tank (I forget the make), Scourge as that Boeing concept liner, Octane as a Hercules and a military refueling truck. It's a very specific look that doesn't mesh well with the more recent approach of staying close to the original G1 vehicles (a trend that seemed to start with certain Thrilling 30 figures that ignored their comic book looks such as Scoop and Whirl; and continuing with the Combiner Wars line).

    I don't think one approach is necessarily better than the other, but I do agree with OP that Gen Scourge feels dated when compared to this one, and not because of some conspiracy on the part of collectors to inflate the price of one or t'other. If we really had that power, we'd have all bought islands with our surplus Twin Twists and Powerdashers.
     
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  4. Starfire22

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    I still love all my old generations 86 figures, but still want these.

    Eh, oh well.
     
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  5. BidoofdudeofOz

    BidoofdudeofOz The Stench of Discovery

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    Is it possible to flip the shins around so the round part is facing forward? From what I can see in the video review, the knees seem to bend in both directions.
     
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    I liked the complexity of the old Gen Scourge, it was full of suprises! I olny found him on ebday a year ago, so maybe he's still newish to me. What I find with overly simple Transformers probably harken back to my childhood. My parent would usually by smaller ones for me if I begged hard enough in the toy isle; mostly of mini-bots and combiner limbs. I'd imagine how they could possibly turn into a robot on the car ride home only to find flipping it over did most of the work for me. It was a tough childhood, filled with harsh truths.
     
  7. unicronic

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    Maybe we're both getting old. I think the word elegant is spot on.

    For these deluxes the transformations are elegant and satisfying.

    Conceptually yes. I haven't tried it. It wouldn't surprise me if a future repaint used this to differentiate the figures.
     
  8. ExVeeBrawn

    ExVeeBrawn You Are Out of Range

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    Highbrow says hey.

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    (yes, I know that's not a repaint at all, but Highbrow is Scourge's engineering cousin and it is using the ability to have the outside-vehicle-surface be the front facing side of the legs, so it's conceptually linked. Or something.)
     
  9. unicronic

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    Well spotted.

    This kind of goes to reinforce the point I've been making about simple transformations that obviously too some effort to engineer to be elegant in their simplicity.

    The deluxes currently are the best of the bunch in my opinion. The voyagers are decent but I'm very disappointed in the leaders. Especially Blaster.
     
  10. lambi

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    Thats good to know, I'm generally a buyer of deluxes.
     
  11. unicronic

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    Blaster isn't bad but for a leader class he just has no wow factor too him. Especially compared to our previous major leader class releases - Megatron and Jetfire.
     
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    The parts share was spotted a while back

    Titans Return |

    TF Wiki posted some pictures a few weeks back

    https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/741721822970941440

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    They missed the Titanmasters though:

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    A pic would be appreciated if you get the time to try. Thanks. Looks like there's a bit of flexibility with looks.
     
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    Purple Heart Some other time..

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    RodimusZero Steezin fo no Reason

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    payres Well-Known Member

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    There's another surprising one with Blurr & Chromedome - bear with, I'll do a similar post in the Blurr review.
     
  17. Housewife2000

    Housewife2000 Fandom, combine!

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    That's an incredibly good spot. I wonder if it's less a case of retooling, and more about building a library of parts from which to build each character? If so, it's a very clever way to build a variety of different figures with shared parts (and therefore costs) subtly, without the obvious retooling of CW.
     
  18. pokemonsdoom

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    ahh yeah, i think hasbro does that for the marvel line
     
  19. BidoofdudeofOz

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    Don't a bunch of Mattel's MOTU classics share parts as well?
     
  20. unicronic

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    I checked this. It would work but the knee pads are too high to allow the knee to bend in the opposite direction