Cybertronian Anatomy (Singularity Lore)

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  1. DrOblivian

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    CYBERTRONIAN SIZE CLASSES

    Cybertronians come in all different shapes, sizes, with different abilities all around. As such these sizes need to be defined and cataloged.

    Size Class Index

    Cybertronians are given a Size Class upon reaching full maturity depending on their height and weight for usage in public records. While this system is mostly unimportant in the grand scheme, it has been noted that some sub species of Cybertronian ONLY fall within specific Size Classes.

    (While I would use the superior metric system for this section, I am from the USA, so i only know the dumb imperial system off the top of my head. I will also only be focusing on height, as weight is a whole other can of worms i don't wish to get into at this time.)

    Micro: 1-5ft (smaller than the average global human height which is 5.6ft for men and 5.2ft for women.)
    Mini: 5-10ft (includes bots like Rumble, Frenzy, Rewind, Minumus Magnus)
    Legion: 10-15ft (includes bots like Bumblebee, Beachcomber, Brawn.)
    Basic: 15-20ft (includes bots like Jazz, Ratchet, Prowl, Arcee)
    Deluxe: 20-30ft (includes bots like Optimus Prime and Megatron)
    Mega: 30-50ft (includes bots like Grimlock, Ultra Magnus, Longhaul)
    Super: 50-70ft (includes bots like Overlord, Scorponok, Blackout)
    Ultra: 70-90ft
    Voyager: 90-150ft
    Supreme: 150-300ft (includes bots like Omega Sentinels, Broadside, and Combiners.)
    Titan: 500ft+ (includes bots like Metroplex, Tidalwave, Trypticon.)

    NOTE: the average height for the Cybertronian Species lies within the Legion - Deluxe size classes, 10-30ft, with the majority falling within the Basic size class.
     
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    I call them "mechanoids", because the word "robot' means "a non-sentient programmable machine".
    About their brain: it's obivious that Transformers will have different brains from us. Where human brain is a electrochemical neuroprocessor, cybertronian's brain is either a nanoelectronical or nanoelectrophotonical neuroprocessor. I assume that because of non-chemical nature of their CPU they process emotions faster than us, can easier upgrade them and have better resistance to overheating (but if Transformer will overheat and damage his/hers processor... well, look at Galvatron and how he went nuts after so-called "plasma bath").
    About their sensors: they can easily have different sensors from us because, well, scanning an altform requiries to use a RADAR/LIDAR. And that allows us to make a conclusion that Transformers can navigate in darkness (by RADAR/LIDAR) and do not afraid of it.
     
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    I like the Mechanoids thing, makes sense.

    I just wanted to clarify what you where asking before i answer is all.

    I honestly hadn't put that much thought into their brains specifically. though all you your reasons make perfect logical sense in the case for a Cybertronian's mechanical based mind. it has also given me ideas on how one would work now as well, ill get back to this at some point.

    as for sensory input. yes on all accounts. not only do they have greatly enhanced versions of what would be your general "basic" senses, they also have ones unique to their species. i will be going over their senses in their own category at some point. infact i have a whole thing for just how their eyes work. ill get to it at some point so check in every once and a while.
     
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    MINI-CONS

    Mini-cons are small Transformers that exist within the Microbot, Minibot, and Legion size parameters that have the unique ability of combining with other, usually larger, Cybertronians in order to lend the larger Transformer some of their power, unlock other special abilities or simply enhance the capabilities of the larger Cybertronian. This process is known as Powerlinx and is a type of natural Binary Bonding that only Mini-Cons are capable of. This type of Binary Bond essentially allows the larger Cybertronian to make use of ALL of the Mini-cons bodily functions in order to supplement its own as well as being greater than the sum of the participants. The Mini-con itself also has a small degree of control over the larger Cybertronian in various ways as the Binary Bond goes both ways, though it is almost always in favor of the larger Cybertronian save for very rare special circumstances.

    The Larger Cybertronian the Mini-Con has attached itself onto is usually known as a Bulk or a Deployer.

    The outcome or benefits of a Mini-con who has Powerlinxed with a normal Transformer can vary greatly as the end result can differ depending on the conditions of said Powerlinx. These determining factors can include but are not limited to; the location of the body the Mini-Con has attached too, Outlier abilities either party may have, Multiple Mini-Cons, and Cybertronian Subspecies.

    A Minicon can attach itself with a Bulk without actually Powerlinxing/activating any of the benefits that Powelinx provides. It can always be activated later when needed.


    Powermasters

    ALL Mini-cons are automatically Powermasters by nature as one of the primary functions of a Mini-con is to provide to its Bulk is that of an external power supply and other outside functions to enhance their Bulk’s overall capabilities.

    In most cases, a Powerlinx with this type of Minicon can result in the 50/50 chance of the mini-con revealing a hidden or unknown ability of the bulk. An example would be Armada hotshot's shoulder bazooka.


    Headmasters

    Headmasters take the Powerlinx Binary Bonding process of Mini-cons to the next level. While not creating the same output of power boost that a normal Mini-con (powermaster) it benefits in other ways.

    As the name implies Headmaster’s are Mini-cons who can transform into Heads that replace the head of their Bulk partner’s own. (the Bulk’s own head simply tucks away into their torso while the Headmaster is in use.)

    The benefits of the Headmaster procedure are many: The Mini-con gains control of a larger, more powerful body, and the Bulk gains an extra perspective on the battlefield, the psychic binary bonding involved allowing the Bulk to draw on both his own ideas, tactics, and instincts as well as those of his partner as quickly as if they were coming from his own head (since they are). Agility, reaction speed, and targeting accuracy are often enhanced by the process.

    The chance of the Headmaster revealing a hidden power for its bulk are nonexistent as the headmaster process itself already has many benefits and taxes both individuals, any more would overload the Mini-con or bulk.


    Targetmasters

    A Targetmaster is a Mini-con that has a weapon as an alternate mode. They are essentially living weapons capable of making their own tactical decisions and target priorities. The advantage is similar to that of having a dedicated gunner aboard an aircraft or tank. However a Targetmaster is not only limited to only transforming into guns however. They can be anything from shoulder mounted canons to shields and swords. So long as it is a weapon, a Targetmaster can become it. If the weapon alternate mode in question is hand held, the Targetmaster will Powerlinx with the Bulk’s palm in order to create the primary binary bond effect all Mini-cons are capable of much as it would if the Targetmaster has attached itself to anywhere else on the Bulk's body.

    The chance of the Targetmaster revealing a hidden power for its bulk are VERY slim.


    Titanmasters


    Titanmasters not only exhibit all functionality of every type of "master" but also improve on them.

    As a Targetmaster, they can somewhat mimic the abilities of a headmaster to a limited degree. Say if the target master were mounted on the Bulk's back and saw in incoming attack from behind, they could alert the bulk thought their binary bond where a normal Targetmaster could not.

    As a Powermaster, the power boost provided is about triple that of a normal minicon powerlinx were as when used in a Powerlinx as a headmaster or targetmaster the powerboot is only 1.5 times more powerful than average.

    As a headmaster the Minicon can assume full control of the bulk if necessary while still pulling from its larger partner's own capabilities.

    The chance of the Titanmaster revealing a hidden power for its bulk when bonded as a powermaster are bumped to 70%, to the targetmaster mode's 40%, to the headmaster mode's 10%

    General Master Info

    The “Master” types are simply further identifiers of the Mini-con subspecies itself as the Process of Powerlinx tends to go hand in hand with how a “Master” functions. As such they are natural variations within the Mini-con subspecies. However versions of each of the master types can exist outside of the Mini-con subspecies in larger size classes (excluding titanmasters) albeit they are usually artificial (exceptions do exist) and always without the unique benefits that only a proper Mini-con can provide.

    A Mini-con Headmaster, Targetmaster, or Powermaster are much more efficient and reliable than any who are NOT Mini-cons as their ability to Binary Bond is not as great as Mini-con Powerlinx is.

    All Mini-cons are Masters but not all Masters are Mini-cons

    NOTE: not all small sized Transformers are Mini-cons. The chances of an actual Mini-con birth are roughly 1 in 500,000. These low chances of natural Mini-cons are why many "masters" may actually be artificial, meaning a normal Cybertronian who has undergone some kind of procedure to try and mimic the functionalities of a "Master"

    Sources:
    Source, TFwiki on headmasters, targetmasters, and powermasters.
     
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    Cybetronian's eye seems for me to be something like Terminator's visual sensor (a sophisticated digital video camera, outfitted with a dedicated microprocessor and a compact nanocrystalline hard disc). It's connected with the CPU by optical fiber, because it is resistant to EMP, ionizing radiation and electric discharges and transfers digital information faster than electric wires.
     
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    I don't know actual tech very much or its terminology, (though i do understand that you've just said) I'm just kinda science fictioning my way through this and using terms that seem appropriate as specific topics come up. Nor am I getting THAT detailed on how their body works (depending on the topic)

    For the most part i will overly explain the NEW things that are different from human anatomy, but if there is a human anatomy analog that information is good enough to fill any gaps until i decide to fill those gaps myself, if i decide to fill those gaps.

    For example the eyeball. I would assume that MOST people have a basic understand of how an eyeball works and how its connected to the brain, so when the time comes to explain the cybertronian eye i will mostly focus on how things differ and let the reader's generic understanding of human anatomy and basic tech assumptions fill the gaps as its not hard to assume that is is indeed a high tech camera of some sort linked to the brain through some sort of cable.
     
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    No problem.

    Thinking about the anatomical and physiological aspect of Cybertronians is an interesting aspect of the whole lore, sort of trying to make sense for their being in a science-fiction way as it relates to them being a whole special class/species of living organisms. It's a fascinating and exciting thing for me anyway to discuss. And in my obssession, I even take notes, probably more interested than a subject of human anatomy and physiology lol.

    Cybertronians as "Mechanoids" is a term that makes sense. I like that.

    As for their optics/eyes, this all goes to the thread I contributed in trying to explain what happens to their visual systems when they adopt an alt mode. I mentioned in that thread that some of their visual mechanisms instinctively shift to the front of their alt-forms.

    Of course, being advanced species and from what we've seen so far, they have various sensors that make them aware of their surroundings, both in their robot- and alt-forms.

    Going back to their vision again, it seems Cybertronians are capable of seeing through different spectra of light. In RID15, i think there's an episode where Bumblebee was using x-ray to see through structures. And I agree that if they were to scan objects/vehicles for their alt-modes, they would have to have RADAR/LIDAR capability. So for me, the eyes/optics of Cybertronians are highly likely way more advanced.

    some of their innate sensors probably also help them with adopting the new alt-form. we know from Rescuebots that Boulder has SONAR, seismic imaging capability and he often uses such capability to pin point an object. Perhaps to Cybertronians like Boulder, this capability is more pronounced than to other Cybertronians so they could use such as one of his/her special capability. again, it goes back to the entire CNA thing where the CNA determines each Cybertronian's physical attributes, characteristics, traits and capabilities.

    auditory systems are highly likely just as sharp as their visual systems and they can probably hear and tune to different waves and frequencies. we know they could use their internal comm link to be able to talk with other Cybertronians or electronically connect with humans through their phones.
     
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    It seems for me, that Cybertronians can be designed as the race of artificially created aliens, if the CNA is an acronym for "Constructional Nano-Algorithms". Imagine that you program a bunch of Nano assemblers (or, better - an actual Nano-fabricator) with CNA, add energy and materials, and they build Transformer's protoform for you. Then you install the Spark and, if you want a flyer, reactionless drives (a so-called anti-gravity drive is actually a reactionless drive) and program the frame. Oh, I 've just described the job of Vector Sigma...

    And, which is unfortunate in my opinion, writers for some reason decided that it would be better to imagine Transformers as biological creatures, rather than as sentient machines.
     
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    the word Biology walks a very fine line when it comes to fiction as by definition biology does not mean "organic" but rather it is the blueprints and functions of a living organism. the term applies regardless of what a species is made of. however here on earth IRL the only "living organisms" ARE organic. hence the word being tied so strongly to organics.

    Even though this is the case with most Transformers fiction in recent years this does not take away the "sentient machine" aspect of the Cybertronians. Rather it is an attempt to make them seem more advanced and more alien.

    The same goes for my Transformers within Singularity. There is NOTHING about them that could be considered organic in the traditional sense, yet they have a fully functioning biology that very closely resembles that of what organic species do simply because they ARE incredibly advanced technology that has many of those same needs as a normal organic living creature would. Hence the similarities in function.
     
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    biological creatures and sentient machines may not be independent of each other, anyway.

    we humans are biological creatures while also being sentient machines (organic, flesh and blood machines) fueled by sugar (carbohydrates). humans basically are biological sentient robots, heck overall carbon-based life representing the living diversity on Earth are biological robots, of differing sizes, characteristics, traits, forms, etc.

    I don't think, ultimately, there's going to be a big deal of difference, probably only in the interpretation of the various accounts of Creation or the hows of creation. there are going to be those who think that human existence could be the result of a higher alien intelligence; through divine creation; through random sequence of events, basically being at the right time at the right place.

    to me, a melding of these accounts is what is best for complicated, advanced, sci-fi species like Cybertronians so essentially these thought processes would be the same thing as far as their existence and being are concerned. but all in all, i'm just basically interested in the discussion of science-fictioining the anatomical and physiological angle of Cybertronians to make sense of who they are and their various capabilities in a science-fiction-y manner basically using humans as the foundational template. the Transformers are, after all, human archetypes.

    So your take on it is also interesting. It even gives them of a "Terminator-esque" origins (Skynet becoming Vector Sigma later on as the A.I. matured and became more responsible as it gained more and more power and capabilities ;P).

    Incidentally, i'm now watching "Ancient Aliens" in the history channel with episode title "Aliens and Robots" :D 

    PS

    by the way, the reason why i actually lean towards the explanation that they are born or even come from the Well of Sparks as a way to multiply and propagate the species - as opposed to being mechanically created - is because of the diversity of Cybertronians. each one of them do not look the same, whereas Skynet's machines are very uniform through the various chassis classes (T-800, T-1000, T-900, etc.).

    you would have to have a factor that makes this diversity and none other [sci-fi] explanation suits best than the idea that Cybertronians have their own genomic architecture and so this genome - Cybertroxynucleic Acid (CNA) - is what gives rise to the differing appearances, features, characteristics of various Cybertronians.

    so basically, if we take a Skynet-like scenario, Skynet creates its machines and the exoskeletons are uniform among the different chassis class, like soldiers.

    we don't see the same thing with Cybertronians. some of them may look the same, true, but among the various Cybertronians, each and every one of them are different. so, if you were to make sense that an efficient A.I. focusing on using less resources for the buck (being able to produce more while using less resources and being more effective and efficient in the process) like Skynet would create the Cybertronians, then why not create them uniformly as that takes less resources, and is more efficient and effective.

    Cybertronian diversity is why i would lean to the more science-fiction-y angle that they can be born (naturally or through the Well of Sparks), etc.
     
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    ^ i loved every second of this.

    i am currently typing it up now and it will be a separate thread entirely. but how and why the Transformers were created will be in it. As ive said before. the Transformers reproduce in A LOT of different ways (basically every way you can think of, and there is a reason for that) all shall be revealed soon.

    I'll post here when the other thread is up as an update. As its mostly lore related rather than anatomical. im currently working my way through Unicron and Primus. the 13 and the transformers ill hopefully get to tonight.
     
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    There is still one reason why the A.I. entity could create race of artificial machines. As an experiment ( I don't believe that Transformers were designed to fight Unicron - if you want to get rid of planet-sized aggressive entity, you will have to create sentient spacecrafts rather than planet-dwelling mechanoids). Or, maybe, Primus (that entity) simply created them for reasons we cannot comprehend.

    And don't forget about the Matrix of Leadership! It can't be developed by entity with Skynet-like philosophy.

    (Yeah, in my opinion Primus is super-intelligent entity like Minds from Ian Banks' Culture.)
     
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    ive actually posted my own unicron primus creation myth in the fanfic section if you are interested.
     
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    I was reading your thread a couple days ago but forgot to acknowledge how good your ideas are. :thumb 
     
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    thank you. i know its been a while since i updated but i should be back in the mood soon hopefully. i can feel the itch starting to grow.
     
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    updated minicons and added Titanmasters
     
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    OUTLIERS

    Outliers are Cybertronians who have unexplainable special powers that are NOT caused by and have nothing to do with their mechanical anatomy or any kind of upgrades, mods, or special equipment. Notable examples of these logic defying abilities are as follows.

    Mirage and his ability to turn completely invisible, Windcharger and his ability to manipulate the laws of magmatism, Skywarp and his teleportation, and Trailbreaker and his ability to generate force fields. Etc.…

    Most scholars and scientists insist that these powers are manifest by the spark itself. However when an outlier uses their powers, the spark does not react in any profound way that would confirm that the abilities are being cause by the spark. (The sparks DO react when abilities are used, just not enough to draw any real conclusions) The sparks of known outliers are also seemingly no different than any other. The cause of these abilities is still a mystery

    Some argue that outlier abilities may actually be a form of natural affinity for the Arcane Sciences however this too has mostly been proven false as the abilities, aside from their actual effects, don’t seem to be generated by any kind of ether field.

    "The most likely cause for these unexplainable abilities are the presence of a multitude of different anomalies working together. However none of these individual anomalies aside from the slight fluctuation in the Spark's Electromagnetic field and the possible theorized Ether manipulation have been accounted for. Even the small EM field fluctuation was discovered by chance by yours truly simply due to the nature of the EM field, i nearly ignored my findings entirely, chalking them up to normal EM field behavior. Simply put, we are missing many different parts of the equation that we may never even find. These abilities ARE explainable we have just not yet discovered all the puzzle pieces. Something that I vow to fix, and eventually, Primus willing, recreate these anomalous conditions in the lab so that we may give these abilities to our soldiers at will." -Shockwave
     
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    anything next that anyone is hankering to hear or should i just keep going with whatever strikes my fancy as i go?
     
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    added 3 new paragraphs to Protoforms, im gona try updating this some more, it didn't die, i just lost intrest for a while.