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Old 06-06-2012, 04:34 AM   #21
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I started off my drawing as a little kid trying to copy the artwork in my comics. I'd get down really close and copy every detail as best I could. Admittedly when I stood back an hour later I'd discover that the proportions had gotten lost in translation. I've still got some of my old artwork from back then somewhere of Superman and he looks like a deformed swamp monster. But it was okay. Getting right down to the details was a useful learning experience, even if the overall results were often off-kilter.
Drawing is fun. I'd turn out pages and pages of stuff back in the day of all levels of quality depending on mood and project. I'd do it more now too if I had the time and less injured hands.

But I'm derailing the OP's thread. I hope he at least tries some of the suggestions and comes back to post them. It's much more satisfying to be able to produce a piece of work and be able to honestly say 'I did that all myself'.
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:58 AM   #22
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Um... yeah... you DREW these but you did not design them. To design means to create your own original interpretation of the character from scratch. To simply draw designs that SOMEONE ELSE created is not your design.
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:05 AM   #23
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look i look at some desgineds and they look good so i drew them so what it still tf
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:52 AM   #24
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look i look at some desgineds and they look good so i drew them so what it still tf
The so what is that by saying you designed them you're claiming rights to someone else copy righted material which is illegal. There's nothing wrong with drawing them, that's what fan art is but don't say that you designed them.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:00 AM   #25
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look i look at some desgineds and they look good so i drew them so what it still tf
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The so what is that by saying you designed them you're claiming rights to someone else copy righted material which is illegal. There's nothing wrong with drawing them, that's what fan art is but don't say that you designed them.
What SaberPrime said.

Half of those designs are simply just direct copies of previous TF's from other series, as mentioned earlier, and you outright stole the design for Wheeljack from another fan artist. Simply recoloring most of the designs does not suddenly make them yours.

Furthermore, simply because you like the designs doesn't mean they're going to work for your fan animation. Half of them aren't even POSSIBLE because you've matched up robot modes to alt. modes that they simply can't turn into, such as your RID Prime recolor into G1 Prime truck mode.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:17 AM   #26
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look i look at some desgineds and they look good so i drew them so what it still tf
The point is that in artist's circles, using someone else's ideas and designs and saying they're your own is pretty much the WORST thing you can do. You have taken what someone else did and lied and said you did it instead. It's pretty much the same thing as stealing from that artist, and every artistic community hates it. They hate it so much that on many communities you'd have been banned immediately for doing something like this, especially given your comments after the fact.

But I'll tell you what, I understand you're just getting started up, and copying someone else's designs is a good way to practice. The problem is, you won't get any better that way. At best, you'll only be able to copy that person's style, and do whatever they've already done, and you'll never get any better than that. At worst, you'll be nothing but a cheap knockoff of them. You NEED to develop your own skills or you won't get anywhere.

So here's what you're going to do.
-You're going to take a pad of paper, you're going to go outside, and you're going to find a car in real life that you think could be a transformer.
-You're going to choose an angle to draw that car from, that you think best brings out the idea of the character you want it to turn into.
-You're going to sketch the car, not trace it from a photograph or someone else's art. You're going to take your time and draw what you see in real life. Take your time, I don't care how it turns out, because this is likely something new for you. Whatever comes out will be fine as long as you do your best.
-You're going to post this drawing here, not in a new thread, and you're going to explain in as much detail as possible. Why you chose the car, why you chose that angle, what you found easy, what you had trouble with, stuff like that.

THEN, you're going to take one of your transformers toys:
-Choose what character you want it to represent, if you want to use it for a new one.
-Pose it in a way you think really brings out who that character is, and choose an angle to look at it from that does the same.
-Sketch it the same way as the car, in real life, in as much detail as you can, putting as much thought and work into the process as you can. Once again, doesn't really matter to me how it turns out, so long as you try your best.
-Post it in this thread, and explain why you chose this toy, this pose, this angle, and how things went for you.


I'll give you a week to show signs of progress. IF YOU DO THIS, I'm sure there are lots of people who will give you useful comments on how to get better and get closer to what you want to become. IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, you'll show us that you're really not interested in becoming a good artist or transformers writer, and I will become a very harsh critic of you. I will make Autobot_Burnout seem friendly and generous by comparison.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #27
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Furthermore, simply because you like the designs doesn't mean they're going to work for your fan animation
Considering he had to trace over existing artwork and photos just for this part of the process I kinda have to wonder how he's even going to do the artwork needed for his animation. Unless he's going to find galleries online for each figure and trace over the poses or something.
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So here's what you're going to do...

I'll give you a week to show signs of progress. IF YOU DO THIS, I'm sure there are lots of people who will give you useful comments on how to get better and get closer to what you want to become. IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, you'll show us that you're really not interested in becoming a good artist or transformers writer, and I will become a very harsh critic of you. I will make Autobot_Burnout seem friendly and generous by comparison
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:35 PM   #28
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A lot of whining in this thread.

How about use that energy to post in other threads.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:05 PM   #29
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A lot of whining in this thread.

How about use that energy to post in other threads.
We can do both.

And pulling someone up for stealing from other peoples' work and claiming it as their own is whining?
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:35 PM   #30
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We can do both.

And pulling someone up for stealing from other peoples' work and claiming it as their own is whining?
Then do it.

There are many threads that have none to one comment.

Here's a good thread to start at.
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