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Old 01-21-2008, 11:04 PM   #11
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wait... didn't someone recommend sanding off bumblebee's stripes with sandpaper last month?


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wait... didn't someone recommend sanding off bumblebee's stripes with sandpaper last month?
I believe so.

Anyway, sandpaper can me masked with proper grit and a little polish.

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Old 01-22-2008, 08:34 AM   #13
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That's not true... if you go from say, 400 grit, up to 600, and then use something like copy-paper and t-shirt rags, you will polish it to an indistinguishable surface...
Not in my experience you wont. You will still be able tot ell it has been altered no matter what, but as he said he doesn't care about that so it doesn't matter.
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I believe so.

Anyway, sandpaper can me masked with proper grit and a little polish.

Theres a bloody huge difference between using some sand paper to rub off some stripes, and using it to file down large pieces of plastic.

For one, fine grit sandpaper which wont leave marks on the plastic wont carve enough plastic away to be effective, AKA its a waste of time. You'll spend hours and hours sanding down before you see any difference, even longer before its an effective difference. To have any effect you will need to use a lower grit grade sandpaper or a nail file to have any effect on the plastic. which will leave marks and lines.

Now with paint details however its totally different, because for one you use the sand paper wet to remove paint details and the super fine grit sand paper has just enough friction behind it to take away the Hasbro factory-applied paint which usually comes off with a light breeze with the aid of alcohol. But if not sand paper is an obvious choice to use instead, hence why i recommended it to that person who wanted the stripes removed from BB and wasn't having any luck with the alcohol.

I know it works this way for a fact because i have done it.

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See, why you gotta start stuff like that? Your a mod you should know better.

And Frenzy dont bother trying to talk to me, your on the ignore list.

Also, theres a bloody huge difference between using some sand paper to rub off some stripes, and using it to file down large pieces of plastic.
What the hell are you talking about? I remember a thread like 4 pages of people saying yes/no to sanding down the stripes. That's what I believe he was talking about.

Anyway, I have sanded down parts for Alt kitbashes and so have others and with the proper touching up, it looks fine.

And since I see you edited just now...

I have no intnetion on getting in a pissing contest with you. I really dont care enough. However for the benefit of the topic started, he does have options that will work. If he is careful and because it's such a small part, it very well can be sanded down.

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Anyway, I have sanded down parts for Alt kitbashes and so have others and with the proper touching up, it looks fine.


And this was the theory we was disputing. Someone said it would look fine without some touch up, but it will not. However with some extra work and touch up it will look fine (i.e. maybe some primer, smooth that down, then add some durable paint), but just leaving it after using course sandpaper on plastic will leave marks.

Well, now thats cleared up we can move on.

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he could very well just sand it down and it could be fine depending on the sandpaper. I, as well as others touch it up for other effects.

The thread starter even mentions his own method of sanding and it works for him. So I really don't see the problem. It is completely possible, as others have done, to sand down without scratches. Before paitning my Alt Robo-1, I did some sanding and got no scratches.

I have no doubt that your method works. But there are other possible ways that work as well.

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For one, fine grit sandpaper which wont leave marks on the plastic wont carve enough plastic away to be effective, AKA its a waste of time. You'll spend hours and hours sanding down before you see any difference, even longer before its an effective difference. To have any effect you will need to use a lower grit grade sandpaper or a nail file to have any effect on the plastic. which will leave marks and lines.
...I sand plastic all the time... how do you think people (myself and many others) remove flash, mold lines, and extra materials from plastic models? I've worked on just about every plastic that would be used for toys and models out there, and even the hard stuff (read: toy quality) sands right down... and polishes smooth again.
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...I sand plastic all the time... how do you think people (myself and many others) remove flash, mold lines, and extra materials from plastic models? I've worked on just about every plastic that would be used for toys and models out there, and even the hard stuff (read: toy quality) sands right down... and polishes smooth again.
Yes i am totally aware of this and never said sandpaper doesn't work to begin with! What i was disputing was that you cant sand plastic down without leaving marks, and thus needs some touch up afterwards. People were saying that you could do that and get away with not leaving any marks and not polish the area or touch it up or whatever afterwards, and that just isn't true or at least not in my experience.
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People were saying that you could do that and get away with not leaving any marks and not polish the area or touch it up or whatever afterwards, and that just isn't true or at least not in my experience.
And there it is. Your experience is one thing. Others however may have had different experiences. That's all.

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