Was a subscriber to the original Marvel Run, and I buy both cover A, and B of Regeneration 1. If it continued I would still buy it. Love me some G1!

 

Are you really going to insult people for liking MTMTE because they insulted you liking Regeneration One? Doesn't seem like a good way to take the moral high ground.

You're entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else on the board. But I would take umbrage with the idea that MTMTE is nothing but a glorified fanfic (a claim which could be levelled at any comic book ever written when you think about it.)

Roberts has taken a host of characters that have either never been used before or left to stand on the sidelines and made them fan favourites, most notably Swerve, Whirl and Tailgate. Furman has pretty much stuck with the same old characters and left everyone else with the absolute bare minimum of personality and dialogue.

Speaking of dialogue, Regeneration One's main weakness comes to the fore anytime a character opens his mouth. It's, to be blunt, terrible, with stiff and unnatural conversations loaded with the sort of stupid puns that Furman seems to be obsessed with. Good dialogue flows off the tongue and brings a reader into the story. This played a large role in me dumping the series, as did that stupid Gene Key (which is shaped like an actual key for added narm) storyline.

MTMTE and RiD have gone a long way towards portraying the Great War as an actual war, with the idea of good and evil being completely relative depending on where you stand and allegiance being a choice rather than a birthright. The whole Gene Key concept is a massive insult to the intelligence of the readership, reducing what should be a complex issue to the sort of "goodies and baddies" mentality that a five year old would find embarrassing.

I was pretty excited when Regeneration One was announced. A few issues later and all I was left with was the feeling that Furman probably should have stopped writing Transformers fiction some time ago.

 

For one, I like MTMTE. I just don't put it on a pedestal. I like the Magnus subplot along with a few others. I do like that the Moonquest arc is going well. It is explaining lots of background material.

That being said, Eugenesis is a fanfic novel where Soundwave gives birth to Quintessons which is gross. Again, I don't want to go down the road that that last issue I had with Kickback again so I am going to bow out and say peace be with you because I don't want to get into an ugly fight. I did my job (its on the front page now) and so my complaints are now gone. I do wish everyone a very nice day, sincerely I do. Sorry for any offense given.

 

I like regeneration one so far. I look forward to all the comics  

 

Man I wonder why they even try to make anything for the fandom now all people do is complain.

 

Sad to say I havn't been feeling ReGen1 that much, but Geoff Senior is my all time favourite Transformers artist so this makes me really happy! Wish it was a whole issue instead of 5 pages but I take what I can.

 

Wow, I didn't realize, nor to I understand all the Furman hate going around. Being an old school collector I can say with out a dough that Furman is by far the best TF comic book writer EVER! With out him I dough the TFS would still be around. G2 is by far the best series EVER and with out that I know I would not be a TF collector today. I have tried so many times to read books from other authors and I can never finish them and I have gotten to the point where if it's not written by Furman I don't even bother. If you were to ask me I'd say Furman should have at least 3 books going at the same time and he should have written ever script for the movies. I pray for a generation 2.5 or something to be done. Furman is the godfather of TFS and people should show a little more respect.

 

When is this issue #0 being released?

I think it is kind of weird that they don't just give it a regular issue number... I guess they are dead set on ending at 100 issues. Maybe this is a way to keep it "separate" from the other issues drawn by Wildman?

I'm definitely looking forward to some Geoff Senior bots. I always have trouble deciding if I like Senior or Wildman art better... They are both great in their own ways. I've bought all the Geoff Senior RI covers so far.

 

I respect Simon Furman plenty, but that's not enough to overlook all the problems with his writing.

 

Geoff Senior? I love G1, but that makes this an easy pass.

 

geoff seniorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!

<3

 

yeah, for 5 pages, amongst other artists. You're entitled to your own preferences, but you might be chucking the baby with the bathwater.

 

Possibly true, but he was my least favorite artist of the whole Marvel run. I was saddened they brough him back for #75, and glad to see him go. No need for me to reward the current franchise owners for bringing him back.

 

To be fair, these ideas make sense in being continued since this is the same continuity with the same characters(except with a different Galvatron).

I'm behind an issue, but I imagine the same applies in a "What if...? " sort of way.

 

I really like that he doesn't give us a bunch of expositionary dialog letting the panels tell the stories rather than beating us with 10 pages of text. Of course the book that does that MTMTE is rather well written for all of its exposition and it fits with the narrative theme so its a good series.

Furman is from a different time. I compare Furman to Yoshiyuki Tomino in many regards. Both like to kill off lots of side characters, both don't give exposition allowing the reader to infer from panels/animation. Problem is the threads on TFW about it go hate train pretty fast. I still lurk from time to time because I am curious and I know that these people read tvtropes because half the stuff they say is copy/pasted from there. The whole junk about Regen One being a decompressed story is bull. It is a classic 80s compressed narrative with a few new things thrown in. MTMTE is a modern decompressed narrative that is supposed to be a character driven story rather than plot driven and that is why the plot is moving at a glacial pace but lots of things happen in it so its entertaining.

I basically quoted Costa when I said that the tf community doesn't know good comics given their relative exposure to them (hint its tf only) we are our own world in that regard. I read a lot of comics so it is w/es on that one there can be exceptions.

People are wanting more 'minor characters' to get spotlight. Since when did Marvel do that? Why should Marvel shift in that direction logically? It can't and it won't. You all want Regeneration One to be Marvel MTMTE with lots of expositionary dialog that again would be jarring if read from issue 80 to 80.5-81. Such a shift in writing style would undermine the entire book's purpose which is to replicate the old tf style of story telling. Guess what, it was horribly cheesy back then and it is now. People with nostalgia goggles should take them off and declare the entire Marvel run garbage if they cannot get into Regeneration One or at least understand why the story is being told like this. Someone said: I respect Furman but I hate his writing. That is having your cake and eating it too. Similarly, hating the writing style of Regeneration One and liking Marvel UK is having your cake and eating it too. You could argue well its not his best work but I am a Furman fan, and that is legit. But to totally say this book is garbage is exactly having your cake and eating it too.

I like that people on this thread spat on Furmans IDW work saying he was canceled and such. Who created IDW Magnus? Who created the seeds of all the plot points being addressed? I mean the reason why he was canned was so he would work on the less than stellar movie comics hoping lending his name to them would make them sell. He did the Revenge of the Fallen comics btw. People are still mad that he was canned. I know I am. Luckily James Roberts and John Barber consult with him on the IDWverse allowing them to get a sense of what was intended. It looks like RiD has out right stated something that Furman hinted at (on a panel, what did I say about him telling stories through the panels) of Kup encountering a synthetic energon type (something fans speculated because they know how Furman rolls... wait that Nick Roche another person heavily influenced by Furman). In the end both compressed and decompressed narratives are great if executed well. I think that all three IDW offerings are great. They are statistically tied in sales (varying by a few hundred and hovering around the 100 mark because lol super star artist has damaged the Transformers comic brand).

I think its dishonest to say that this is garbage. It is also dishonest to read a comic you have no intention of liking other than griping about it. Drop it, move on. Consider whatever fanfic or conclusion to the Marvel series as canon and be done with it. My experience is that people are loving all 3 and especially Regeneration One is selling out rapidly. I mean no insults btw. I am stating out I feel about some of the more in my opinion outlandish attacks on the series.

 

I like RG1 because it feels a bit more familiar than MTME and its Story goes at a Pace that I can actually keep up with... Kinda. I'm kind of an outsider when it comes to the Transformers Comic Continuity, I've READ the First three IDW Compilations of the Marvel US Books, RG1 #80.5-91 (I still can't believe Its been a year and a month since 80.5 Came out), and MTME #12-16. I may not have read ALL the Transformers Comic Books, but I enjoy RG1 for what it is; a continuation of Generation 1.

 

I respect the man completely, hell I bought him a beer in person.

I respect him, and myself, enough to speak honestly about my perspective on ReGeneration One.

AFAIK no one here is part of any "crew." I don't support the specific comment that there was a kerfluffle over last time and it doesn't make any sense that you'd keep trying to score points off this.

Nobody doesn't want to like this comic. This is nonsense. What you are seeing is anticipation replaced with frustration.

I wish people would remember that while others' motivations may not make sense to you, they make sense to them. Nobody started buying this series just to publicly shame Simon Furman.

 

How do you know the three titles are tied in sales? Are there some public sales numbers for comics published somewhere... Like Soundscan for music?

EDIT... LOL, never mind. Google is my friend.

 

Because people who don't like a comic band together and plot retaliation...

By you and probably no one else.

Nope, just you.

Agreeing with Mike Costa is not something to brag about. That man wrote paper defecation and admitted he couldn't associate with our living robots.

-Bludgeon
-Thunderwing
-Skullgrin
-Roadhandler
-Carnivac
-Nightbeat
-Death's Head

To name a few.