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Old 01-30-2013, 02:22 PM   #1
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I'm a little confused about Shockwave (Spoilers)

So, we now know what Empurata is and how it affects bots like Whirl and Shockwave. However, we know that guys like Brainstorm can make new hands and stuff, so presumably a new head isn't out of the question. I also know that hands like Ratchet's and presumably Whirl's are irreplaceable, but I don't think Shockwave's were special. Why didn't Shockwave just get a new head and hand. I'd assume he'd have a lot of influence if he could Matrix chambers installed in whoever he liked.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:28 PM   #2
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They didn't just alter his body, they altered his mind as well. So he didn't WANT to change back, as his mind had been altered to accept or not even know that there had been changes.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:28 PM   #3
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Somehow, after the Shadowplay he went through, I very much doubt Shockwave would care enough about his look to give himself a new head. Also, I think it was said somewhere he did replace his claws--with a laser gun.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:31 PM   #4
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They didn't just alter his body, they altered his mind as well. So he didn't WANT to change back, as his mind had been altered to accept or not even know that there had been changes.
Ah. That kinda explains a lot. Still, Whirl actually said "I want my hands back." Now, I know any built hands wouldn't be as good as the real deal, but it's better than nothing, right?
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Yeah, clearly Shockwave was comfortable with it, since he had his claw replaced with a gun, rather than a new hand.

I expect that he decided from, a purely logical standpoint, that he had no need for a face or left hand.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:40 PM   #6
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Ah. That kinda explains a lot. Still, Whirl actually said "I want my hands back." Now, I know any built hands wouldn't be as good as the real deal, but it's better than nothing, right?
When human hands are lost, and are replaced by mechanical ones, there is a limitation to the functionality to the replacements, as the original controlling nerves are no longer present/don't work anymore. I know we're talking about robots, but I think something similar might be going on with Empurata. If it were really easy to undo, it wouldn't be much of a punishment. Perhaps what actually occurs is that they replace not only the hands and head, but also the control relays and circuts, such that even if Whirl were to get new hands, all he could do with them is open and close them like clamps, without any fine control.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:41 PM   #7
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Ah. That kinda explains a lot. Still, Whirl actually said "I want my hands back." Now, I know any built hands wouldn't be as good as the real deal, but it's better than nothing, right?
Yeah but again it's Whirl, he's rather die than ask anyone to help him out.

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Perhaps what actually occurs is that they replace not only the hands and head, but also the control relays and circuts, such that even if Whirl were to get new hands, all he could do with them is open and close them like clamps, without any fine control.
Thing is transformers aren't JUST robots, they are also living organism that have their own deseases and blood/spark types and everything.

I can make a comparison with say the transistors (because I have an exam in elements of electornics next week and this shit is fresh in my head) and I can tell you NO TWO transistor ever have the exact same characteristic, the same amplification or act the same. If the transistor burns down and you replace it with another the effect won't be same, because there is a ton of shit that interferes.

That's why we have to project the electrical cicruits the specific way and always keep in mind that some of the transistor will have to get replaces and to make sure that the replacement does the same thing.

Well same can be applied here, no two hands are the same, even if they are all made in factories yet alone if they are forged.

It's not that devoid of reality or electornics for that matter. That shit is hard
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:53 PM   #8
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Since Shadowplay I can barely wait for Optimus and Shockwave to confront each other! I wonder how Roberts or Barber will handle it...
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Since Shadowplay I can barely wait for Optimus and Shockwave to confront each other! I wonder how Roberts or Barber will handle it...
Hopefully Roberts will be the one to write it.

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I imagine that Optimus had "that" confrontation with Shockwave a long time ago. I doubt there's much left that either of them has to say to each other concerning their past.
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