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Old 04-17-2012, 07:58 PM   #21
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It also emphasizes just how important he is as a surgeon, because his G1 bio discusses how he is the best guy on Cybertron when it comes to tooling new parts. In other words, if you have unique "forged" parts, replacing damaged components with factory parts won't do... you'd need someone with Ratchet's skills to forge new ones.

When did we hear this forged/built dichotomy first? Was it in relation to Megatron? It must have been back in Roberts' 2-parter, right?

Also, what's up with Adaptus? They way they're using the term, it sounds synonymous with Primus (or God, basically). So TFs are pantheists... and Adaptus is the giver of the gift of transformation?

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Constructed cold was first mentioned in Last Stand of the Wreckers by Fistitron.

Also Adaptus, who is that? Not familiar with him, Phaarma or Ambulan.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:13 PM   #22
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Not me. I don't think it's supposed to be a metaphor for racial or lifestyle prejudices... I think that's exactly what it is. It doesn't feel out of place... I like that we're getting more introspective into how their culture works. Affiliation rituals? Cog amputations? Forged or Built? It's great... I want to know more!!

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Old 04-17-2012, 08:29 PM   #23
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Who do you think the surprise patient is, personally I think that it's Grimlock
Overlord!

He was last seen with no skin and with no one in a hurry to graph new "skin" to his body I'm sure he's cooped up some where in stasis.

Plus his last words to Kup were "Tell Megatron to come and get him."

So odds are that Blackshadow is one of the 5 DJD who obviously wouldn't mind taking him out based on what was said in LSOTW.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:30 PM   #24
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Also Adaptus, who is that? Not familiar with him, Phaarma or Ambulan.
Phaarma and Ambulan are nobodies, based on their names... destined to die very shortly, I would expect. I'm not sure if Adaptus has ever been mentioned prior to this issue, but it seems like Adaptus is the mythic figure who taught them to use their shape-shifting powers. So maybe not a creator god like Primus, but perhaps a Promethean figure?

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Overlord!
He was last seen with no skin and with no one in a hurry to graph new "skin" to his body I'm sure he's cooped up some where in stasis.
Plus his last words to Kup were "Tell Megatron to come and get him."
So odds are that Blackshadow is one of the 5 DJD who obviously wouldn't mind taking him out based on what was said in LSOTW.
That's a pretty good theory. It makes lots of sense.

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Old 04-17-2012, 08:48 PM   #25
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Adaptus was name-dropped in Roberts' on-going two-parter last year. There seemed to be some mythological if not religious overtones attached to the name; maybe in old Cybertronian lore, they were responsible for Cybertronians learning how to transform?

I try to not get attached to rampant speculation. But a Roberts penned barn burner between Overlord and Black Shadow? That would be... magical.

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Old 04-17-2012, 08:59 PM   #26
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Who are we thinking makes up the DJD?

All new characters or fanwank?

Personally I think Lockdown's gonna be on. He is the one Megatron sent to bring Drift in after all.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:15 PM   #27
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Who are we thinking makes up the DJD?

All new characters or fanwank?

Personally I think Lockdown's gonna be on. He is the one Megatron sent to bring Drift in after all.
Yeah Lockdown is a big possibility.
So is Blackshadow
Not sure who that is on Cover 7 but he's obviously one.

So that's 3.

My guess would be one more known Bot and one more unknown.

Deathsaurous perhaps?

No.....I think he's worthy of his own arch.

So maybe a Terrorcon or deluxe Insecticons.

Basically someone who's kickass yet doesn't a lot of limelight.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:23 PM   #28
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Yeah Lockdown is a big possibility.
So is Blackshadow
Not sure who that is on Cover 7 but he's obviously one.
You mean the one reflected in Drift's sword? Isn't that Pipes?
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:09 PM   #29
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Gah! Mere hours away from more Roberts/Milne-y goodness! I can't wait!

My initial thought when I saw that the Wreckers: Declassified catalogs have been brought up again was that Ironfist was back, but they've kind of made it clear by this point that he's pretty stone cold dead. The only other character who's been seen writing them was Verity, but she's probably still on Earth.

I'm now torn, based on the speculation presented in this thread, as to whether the surprise character reveal at the end is Grimlock or Overlord. I'm kind of hoping for the latter, if simply because Black Shadow's been hinted at for a while now, and I'd LOVE to see those two square off.

Everyone was saying the returning character was going to be Kup or Springer a while back, but Kup seems unlikely at this stage and according to Zero Point, Springer's still recovering at Debris with Roadbuster.

I hope that my comics shop pulls the Roche cover for me, as I've been collecting his covers for the series so far. Tomorrow can't come soon enough!
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:09 PM   #30
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You mean the one reflected in Drift's sword? Isn't that Pipes?
I think he means the cover of issue 7.

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