Yup. That was golden.

The only person who gave any **** was a Decepticon genocidal tyrant who probably barely knew Bee.

 

 

Lmao Xenon

And yea. I think it's fair to assume Bee had a decorated service in the 6 months between DC and 'season 2', but it would have at least been nice to see someone male reference to it (even if it was prowl boxing that he went to bee's funeral and no on talked to him, or something like that. )

 

Considering how much he sucked as a leader, it doesn't surprise me.

it's weird how characters' priorities and relationships have gotten in IDW now.

 

Except he was rather liked by other Autobots aside of Prowl who didn't like Bee's being soft and sticking to morals.

And suddenly almost nobody in-universe gave any scrap. No Autobot, at least.
It's not like Bee wasn't with them since -Ations or anything...

But it's okay because Optimus can be all mopey over people who might have been his friends in past, but later all the time were treating him like ****, Prowl and Shockwave.

It's fun, when even Starscream cares more, lol.

 

As well as being funny as a post it is also pretty meta in the way no one in the fandom on the comic forums at the time seemed to give a toss about bumblebees death. What with how many different bumblebee repaints and molds hasbro keep giving bumblebee they seem to think we would be lighting candles in the street and having minute silences at the news of a bumblebee death but nope we all seemed collectively releaved it wasn't a different character we cared about who died at the end of dark cybertron. Even shockwaves death seemed to invoke more outpourings of feels and he tried to break the universe.

 

In fact, I may have thrown a wild party to celebrate.  

 

It's kinda funny, Bee was something of a failure as a leader, but he's fairly responsible for the peace in a way that Optimus couldn't have done in his spot, and he accomplished more than Rodimus.


Though it's not that no-one cared. We saw Optimus and Thundercracker talk about him in RiD shortly after.

It probably hurts that we skipped 6 months, the logical time for max morning.

 

is Bumblebee totally dead or can he be somewhat spared in limbo together with Shockwave and having heart to heart talk with him?
Why would Hasbro killed him anyway? Because the comic was called TF-RID and there is another TF-RID in the making (the cartoon) and it heavily features Bumblebee as leader?

 

He was shot rather decisively.


As for why he died, because he'd filled his role in making a united cybertron, he'd gotten through to Megatron, he did big stuff... it was an end point for his story.

 

It shouldn't be an end point for him. He could simply chose to help Starscream later on or join the Lost Light crew alongside Megatron.

It is strange that in Combiner Wars, we have no Bumblebee at all. He could easily be remold of BlackJack instead of Rodimus.

 

I'd rather he be a ghost or something then to come back to life... we already have enough Bumblebee elsewhere, I'm glad he has died in some form of media.

 

Yea, I like hallucination/ghost Bumblebee. Just because he's dead doesn't mean his presence can't be felt.

I'm not sure if that'd fit too well... his presence in Cybertronian politics would be tricky, considering Optimus is back, and him being on Starscream's side doesn't exactly work, and we also have an optimist-focused-on-keeping-things-together in Windblade around.

Lost Light... I can see his interactions with Megatron, but less so the rest of the crew. And what would his rank be in the crew, considering he's a peer of Rodimus? He's someone that Roberts would have to work heavily into his plots.


It's not that he couldn't do so, but where he died was one reasonable end point, and if he hadn't, the stories would have to take him into account fairly significantly.

 

I'd be happy to have him back so long as they know what to do with him. All the political stuff in RID was pretty poor in my opinion, it just felt like someone spinning too many plates. If they could take a step back and actually plot his arc properly post return, instead of lumbering around in the dark, then yes that'd be great. I never felt comfortable with him being put in charge anyway, it felt forced.

Since I only read the comics I haven't really felt that he's been over-saturated. Obviously fans of the movies and the RID cartoon may find him a bit too ubiquitous  

 

Bee's plot function as an idealist in power who has to make hard choices is already occupied by Windblade... Except Windblade isn't crippled by Bee's self-doubt.

Nor he can lead Autobots, because Optimus is back. Besides, I always had an impression that Optimus left him in charge only because at this time there was no better alternative for Prowl. And nobody would want a fanatic like Prowl in charge, he'd break any peace process. Bee was liked by other bots, but at the same time nobody in his own faction was taking him seriously as a leader...

Plot-wise, Bumblebee would be a surplus to requirements right now. He'd be brought back only to be a background character because there isn't anything to do for him.
There isn't any real need to have him.

In an ensemble cast books like TF titles I'm very sceptical about having characters only for the sake of having them, because it always takes "screen time" from other characters who could do something important.

 

Honestly, I think 'Bee's death was the culmination of not only his own arc, but also kickstarted Megatron's defining arc. Had Bumblebee not been killed, Megatron would have never become the way that he is.

And to sacrifice one of the most intriguing plots we've had in this franchise just to keep the cash cow character alive seems like a total waste of potential.

 

That's a good point, we don't need a retread of Energon where characters had meaningful deaths only to come back and do nothing worthwhile afterwards.

 

Well, if they decided to keep him around, his role will be relegated, for sure, and it'd be as simple as Optimus asking him to get back to the role of scout and he'd probably accept that and then went into the dark corners of Cybertron, becoming Optimus loyal private eye.

 

It'd be a step down but honestly a step up at the same time.

I kinda like the idea of Bumblebee P.I.

 

If it isn't obvious, Bumblebee is my favorite character, and while I don't read IDW much, I've been getting increasingly interested in IDW.

The thing that would get me totally interested in IDW is an arc revolving around Bumblebee being brought back to life. Not to say that MTMTE hasn't been interesting lately, or Transformers for the matter.

The recent preview of one of the comics, I think it was Transformers 47, got me hyped for the possibility of that little hole being the key to Bumblebee and Shockwave's survival. But because we all know that as of now they're both dead, I will remain reading comics that peak my interest.

 

It's the perfect role for him.