Chance to tell IDW we want a G1 cartoon comic

Discussion in 'Transformers Comics Discussion' started by Insane Galvatron, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. JudgeDeliberata

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    Please, point me to something nice and official.
     
  2. johnbonhamatron

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    Blimey, if someone managed to make that make sense, they'd deserve ALL the monies... :p 
     
  3. AB83Rules

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    I loved G1 when I was a kid, but now it doesn't do it for me.

    I like RID and MTMTE, currently up-to date with the issues, have all issues from iTunes and the Transformers App on my iPad.

    Still trying to get through the original Marvel series, up-to issue 41. I never read it as a kid, was more into the G1 cartoon.

    Already read Regeneration One all the way through.

    I like the way the current comics are going.
     
  4. Ryan F

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    The problem with filling in story gaps (like that between S2 and the Movie) is simply that, it could never live up to people's imaginations. To show you what I mean, here's two examples:

    1) The Clone Wars. When Obi-Wan mentioned the Clone Wars in the first Star Wars movie, I always imagined an epic battle of galactic proportions. My seven-year-old self imagined an army of Yodas battling an army of Tarkins, or a crew of Obi-Wans taking on a brigade of Emperors. If everyone has a clone, how can you be sure who is who? How can we trust Yoda if there's a chance he could be an evil clone?

    As concepts go, the potential was amazing... And then they finally filmed it, and it was just a bunch of lame Stormtroopers.

    2) The Time War. In Doctor Who, there was major war that happened off-screen, called the Time War. The hints were tantalising. Whole species erased from history as though they'd never existed. Entire periods of history "quantum locked" so that they couldn't be accessed, even by a time-traveller. Again, imagine a time war where you could wake up one morning, only to find that the enemy had changed the timeline and you were now a banana. Or something.

    Such an amazing high-concept, they surely wouldn't dream of ruining it... ah. It's just aliens firing laser beams at each other, until a beardy old guy activates a bomb and blows everything up.

    My point is that we all have our own grand ideas as to what happenned in those 20 years, how Cybertron suddenly gained two moons, what happened in the battle of Alpha 9, why the Special Teams weren't around during the movie - and, most important of all, when did the Decepticons finally learn how to aim?

    Whilst I admit IDW have a great pool of talent to draw from, if they set this down on page, give us the answers and make it canon, it can't possibly rival the far headier explanations floating around in our own minds.
     
  5. edgs2099

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    I agree with your principle, but your idea of The Clone Wars is probably the worst idea ever thought up by a human mind.
     
  6. Matt_M

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    Sorry for not reading the entire thread but... I'm happy with what we've got.
     
  7. Metroplex79

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    RE: Clone Wars
    -as a kid, I had pictured Jedi fighting against armies of clones....they lost. Which led to them being hunted down.

    RE: Time War
    -we only saw the very end with ships vs 1 planet...kinda like Ep 3 of Star Wars just showed the last month (or 2) of the Clone War. I doubt the entire Time War was just the Daleks firing on the one planet for a hundred years.

    IMO, it is possible to write stories that's part of the continuity, without being all screwey with what's existing.

    I've never read any of these comics, but I'm sure it does sell...(I used to hang out at a comic book shop)

    -Darkwing Duck
    -Duck Tales
    -Batman: The Animated Series
    -Star Trek (I believe TOS through to Voyager had a comic series)
    -CSI

    To me, it doesn't have to be epic, just a simple story somewhat resembling 80s toon writing style except without the errors, bad dialog, and error-filled animation.

    So many key points to be included:

    -intro to the new Autobots (did they all come at once? or did they arrive seperately?)

    -Megatron getting the resources to have re-taken Cybertron...plus clean it up. (If you compare shots of Cybertron from MtMtE Part 1 to even War Dawn, Cybertron is like a junk yard due to the war, but by the time Revenge of Bruticus and the 86 movie occurred, Cybertron is relatively....clean)

    -the Aubobots managed to construct 2 fully functioning moons...or did they?

    -the construction of Autobot City

    -maybe one of Kup's war stories was actually real, and it was because of one of them he met up with Optimus and co?

    -the development of EDC (Earth Defence Command)

    Have a decent 40-issue series planned out, but really issues #1 to #20. Where #1 is something to move the story forward, but issue #1B is an expanded original episode but with focus on a plot point (or a few) to be important down the line, but we won't know which...rinse and repeat with #2 and #2B, etc.

    Just my opinion and fantasy. It may come out overall a bit fan-fiction-y, but at least it'll be in print, and not part of the Marvel G1 continuity, and you can still choose to ignore it if you want.
     
  8. Murasame

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    As a kid, I did not know what clones were. I just imagined a giant battle with lots of people and everyone using lightsabers and some of them were jedi.
     
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    There is so much possibility here. I would LOVE IT!!!!

    You could theoretically do three continuities, or three different comics in my opinion.

    You could do the untold stories taking place in:

    1. Season 2 with Optimus and the first and second season cast
    2. Season 3 with Rodimus at leader
    3. Post season 4, so we can see what takes place after the Rebirth epiosdes.

    The third would be my vote for the first series to be done.
     
  10. Nocturne

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    Nah, I'm good for G1 releated stuff. There's only so many times you can retread the same ground before it becomes mud.

    Unpopular opinion time! I wouldn't mind a Beast Wars/Machines comic. I was always a bit disappointed in the BW comics because they never focused on the characters I cared about(The actual cast) so to do little tie in comics or even a comic that picks up after the end of BM would be more my cup of tea.
     
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    I wouldn't mind a BW comic, although I did like that the non cartoon toys got face time in the comics.

    I also am interested in seeing more of the IDW G1's version of BW characters.
     
  12. Anguirus

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    Here's my own unpopular opinion: do a Beast Wars comic in a NEW CONTINUITY.

    Because what is acceptable to do a thousand times with G1 is apparently not acceptable for Beast Wars, which is forever relegating it to one nostalgia-fueled niche.
     
  13. Gmanfive

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    Your time will come ;) 

    Give it another 10-20 years or more, Us G1oners will be even older by then and the shift will be to beast wars or animated or whatever you kids loved back in the day

    G1 will be all but forgotten by then

    (note some degree of tongue in cheek for this post)
     
  14. Mizzinno

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    How bout nooooo?
     
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    Oh yes! That would be all sorts of fun.
     
  16. solarstorm

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    Not feeling it. The g1 toon was good for what it was and it was how I was introduced to Transformers.

    But the Sunbow continuity was too childish to really build into something more mature, befitting the adults that would be reading this. This is why reboots and homages work well. They build off of our nostalgia, add to it, and tweak it into something a guy in his 30s could read.

    Dreamwave's G1 ongoing felt like a mature retelling of G1. That worked.

    IDW took it all to the beginning and built from scratch using G1 characters and elements - creating an increasingly complex universe/continuity and multiple solid ongoings. When it came to my TF collection, it was always "How G1 can it go" for homages and such. Now, I'm more interested with what "fits" IDW or looks "kinda like" the IDW designs. I was a g1 guy and now I'm an IDW one.
     
  17. Scorponok

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    I was always a G1 fan and still am. However, I recently became familiar with IDW. It already incorporates many aspects of G1, such a character design. Not an exact match but it's a nice upgraded version. There's so much to like that if it went toward the original G1 cartoons, it might not be as exciting. Plus, I love the darker theme.
     
  18. Bass X0

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    They can still do mature stories set within the Sunbow continuity. It doesn't need to be a reboot or homage, or a retelling. They don't have to focus on the goofy Megatron scheme of the week. Or keep the shallow characterization.

    New stories don't and shouldn't keep the feel of the original G1 cartoon despite being in the same continuity. They can have the darker theme as well.

    No. Dark and grungry stories are popular with us adult readers. Besides, the original cartoon had dark grungy stories too in season three. Dweller in the Depths and The Return of Optimus Prime greatly disturbed me as a kid. Not Nightmare Planet though. Modern lighthearted Transformers stories tend to be goofy for the sake of being goofy and falls on characterisation, maturity and depth. See the Mars Attacks comic. Thats what I want an IDW continuation of the Sunbow continuity to stay away from doing.
     
  19. SPLIT LIP

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    It's "not acceptable" because G1 was so shoddy and non-descript and already featuring multiple seperate continuities when it started up that reinvention for it is standard. "G1" refered to at least two prominent but clearly different stories even back then. Comics and cartoon.

    Beast Wars, on the other hand, was actually made by people who cared to tell a story. The characters weren't one-dimensional tools for advertisement, they were actual personalities, characters. Beast Wars had a story, and overarching series of events. Plus, it wa sthe first real divergent from Transformers typical. It was a reinterpretation, just more radical than anything we see today.

    Beast Wars is special, despite what some would like to think with all the different continuities, that's why it doesn't see reinvention. Because it's more than just "they turn into animals now." Beast Wars is it's own story, set of characters and plot. When "G1" is redone, it's not like the original was truely remarkable enough from a narrative perspective to worry about living up to it's charatcers and story and quality. Beast Wars has already set the bar pretty damn high. For example, take IDW's portrayal of Chromedome: He's troubled, somewhat selfish, and has a dark history and most importantly, his head isn't a little man in a suit. That's okay, because what was the ORIGINAL Chromedome? A generic Autobot goon with no story or motives. Change, even drastic change, from that is hardly doing a disservice to a character that existed most prominently as a piece of plastic. Beast Wars characters already have stories and personalities, though. Deep-set, developed ones. They're defined by their actions in-story, not what their toys could do.

    That said, I would love a new series revolving around Beast Transformers with a brand new story and set of characters (who could or could not use existing names like BW did) but it won't be Beast Wars. Not really, it'll be it's own thing, and I would hope it fully embraces that. Beast Alt modes are the literal ant's tits for me, as animals are far more exciting in battle, and characters can fully emote in both modes. I love it. Hell, look at how often characters transform in MTMTE: not a lot, because a giant block with limited movement isn't as useful in day-to-day life. An animal mode, however, could easily fit into that kind of life. Switching to cat mode to run down a hall or just hang around and be able to do stuff. "Alt mode parties" would certainly be more practical. :lol 
     
  20. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Yup all this.

    I can get behind another Beast Wars team, ala BWII and Neo.