whats with the uprgade bashing? |
06-24-2009, 02:54 PM
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#1 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 24 | whats with the uprgade bashing?
The dozen or so episodes I watched of the show all frowned upon ugrades. Like bumble bee and his boosters, prowl and his samurai shit, and sari and her super ninja crap. Every time someone got an uprgade ratchet was being a hater and was like upgrades are dangerous. Is it a theme of the show to take your self as is or what? | 
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06-24-2009, 03:00 PM
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#2 | | Is gone Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,561 | i dont know i never really got that part of the show if you have the option to be more battle ready in a battle zone i say take it | |
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06-24-2009, 03:20 PM
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#3 | | Tween King and OS' Rival Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,012 Location: Walker,La Collection Count: A army of Robot Heroes! News Credits: 1 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Burn_Out  The dozen or so episodes I watched of the show all frowned upon ugrades. Like bumble bee and his boosters, prowl and his samurai shit, and sari and her super ninja crap. Every time someone got an uprgade ratchet was being a hater and was like upgrades are dangerous. Is it a theme of the show to take your self as is or what? | Bumblebee got his booters only used 3 episodes,Optimus got he's in Aftergame 2-parter, & Prowl got his only in 1 season 2 episode and the rest of season 3. 
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06-24-2009, 03:45 PM
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#4 | | Master of Insanity Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,186 Location: California Collection Count: A lot... | I consider it a plothole of sorts, in part because they completely abandoned it in Season 3. "Five Servos of Doom" tried to explain it like "Prowl wasn't ready for it yet", which in my opinion is complete BS.
My theory is that the show initially wanted to go with a type of "upgrades bad" route. Problem with that however is that Hasbro takes an "upgrades good; more toys to sell" attitude and started designing toys like Samurai Prowl and Wingblade Prime. Naturally, the cartoon had to scramble to accommodate. That's my opinion anyway. Webcomic Updated November 23 Chapter 101: Distracted Upgrade | |
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06-24-2009, 07:59 PM
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#5 | | Do Not Anger The Mommycon Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,148 Location: NE in the Pacific NW Collection Count: As many as my tiny check will allow - which is not much. News Credits: 1 | Plain and simple, Ratchet's been around enough to know that a 'bot has to be mature enough to properly handle new power or he's a danger to himself and everyone else. You don't teach a kid to use a .22 then hand him a machine gun and expect that he's not going to go overboard with it.
He didn't consider Bee, Sari, or Prowl mature enough to handle them - something which proved to be true initially. But each of them grew up enough to handle it and Ratchet accepted it. Ratchet even took it upon himself to upgrade Bee's stingers even tho it could have caused him to be court martialed for an unauthorized upgrade.
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06-24-2009, 08:04 PM
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#6 | | Seeker Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 314 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonscream Plain and simple, Ratchet's been around enough to know that a 'bot has to be mature enough to properly handle new power or he's a danger to himself and everyone else. You don't teach a kid to use a .22 then hand him a machine gun and expect that he's not going to go overboard with it.
He didn't consider Bee, Sari, or Prowl mature enough to handle them - something which proved to be true initially. But each of them grew up enough to handle it and Ratchet accepted it. Ratchet even took it upon himself to upgrade Bee's stingers even tho it could have caused him to be court martialed for an unauthorized upgrade.
--Moony | I agree. 
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06-26-2009, 08:17 PM
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#7 | | Quintesson Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 606 Location: Canada baby! Collection Count: I hope its not as many as I think. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonscream Plain and simple, Ratchet's been around enough to know that a 'bot has to be mature enough to properly handle new power or he's a danger to himself and everyone else. You don't teach a kid to use a .22 then hand him a machine gun and expect that he's not going to go overboard with it.
He didn't consider Bee, Sari, or Prowl mature enough to handle them - something which proved to be true initially. But each of them grew up enough to handle it and Ratchet accepted it. Ratchet even took it upon himself to upgrade Bee's stingers even tho it could have caused him to be court martialed for an unauthorized upgrade.
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06-28-2009, 07:45 PM
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#8 | | Chuck Norris Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,515 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Collection Count: 63 and Growing | Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonscream Plain and simple, Ratchet's been around enough to know that a 'bot has to be mature enough to properly handle new power or he's a danger to himself and everyone else. You don't teach a kid to use a .22 then hand him a machine gun and expect that he's not going to go overboard with it.
He didn't consider Bee, Sari, or Prowl mature enough to handle them - something which proved to be true initially. But each of them grew up enough to handle it and Ratchet accepted it. Ratchet even took it upon himself to upgrade Bee's stingers even tho it could have caused him to be court martialed for an unauthorized upgrade.
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06-28-2009, 08:47 PM
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#9 | | has that rare Swerve!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,742 Location: Cybertron Collection Count: lost track-gotta go count... News Credits: 2 | plus each one was either dangerous and untested or belonged to a Decepticon... Two Updates in one Day!10/2/09 Check it out! | |
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06-28-2009, 10:19 PM
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#10 | | Ratchet made me premed Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 275 | I do think Transformers Animated, being a sort of "modern G1," tried to instill good values in its target audience of young kids. I often felt Animated had an underlying message of "accept yourself as you are." This, I think, was probably tied into Optimus's series arc of becoming a hero but kind of went out the window with those Wingblade upgrades.  | |
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