New TFCToys - Project Uranos Mega Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by aniline, May 16, 2012.

  1. TheGame2K5

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    I will only have one Superion after this one is complete, sold the FP upgraded one as soon as this was announced. It is far better than that version and I dont collect G1. Its not like there is 10 different superions out there in peoples collections. Also I dont think this needs upgrades. I got the blue eyes as a personal preference but would have been fine with leaving them yellow had no such option existed. I guess I should be pissed that I have buy upgrades from reprolabels for all the third party figures since they dont put faction symbols on them. lol. This is a fandom that will pay over $300 for some repainted $15 figures each year at Botcon without thinking twice. If you need the figures you buy to be PERFECT then good for you and good luck finding anything. Its not for everyone, save your money for the next Superion whenever someone makes one.
     
  2. Transformed

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    So people who haven’t purchased these toys should shut the hell up?:lol 

    You don’t have to spend money to know whether you like/dislike something. Generally, we know whether we like something or not before spending a dime on it. Sure, there are items, on the fence items, that may need to be in hand before one can truly decided, but TFC Toys’ Blackbird IS NOT that toy.

    One does not need to have the figure in hand to know that the proportions in combined mode feel off or that too much robot hangs under the jet—these truths become even clearer when we see discussions and fixes by those in this thread who have purchased this figure addressing these issues.

    Uranos’ core doesn’t looks undersized and bloated in every picture I’ve seen, TFC Toys’ official pictures and those taken here—can’t be a coincidence.

    …probably because better proportions are in Feral Rex’s favor.

    Looking at these pictures one can see that Feral Rex is more balanced—personally, I feel that Uranos long legs highlight how undersized his core is:

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    What’s cool about this next picture is that it shows you just how undersized Uranos’ core is:

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    It’s too bad you had to purchase him to figure that out. At least you’ll know next time right?:) 

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    I do think it looks okay combined and I do like the individual robot modes and I like the limbs in their jet modes--I'm ignorant and know too little about jets to know any better, but I don't need to be an expert to know that Silverbolt is just wrong.

    I'll likely pick these guys up once they drop in price as Hercules has--if they never do, however, no problem. Money saved.
     
  3. CybertronianFan

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    Ok, I'll bite. I own BB and I do not seem to understand why the major dislike about BB's alt form. I really do not see the problem with it and actually like it better than a concord (or any other non-combative jet for what matters).
     
  4. Alteron_Sheng

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    I actually rather like Bolt being a Blackbird. It fits with his 'fast' theme and is a military jet, as opposed to the Concord.
    My only real issue is how he's basically a robot with a jet sitting on his back - which is the same problem I've had with many jetformers^^
     
  5. Byrin

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    Yar the robot-yoga look of Black bird in plane mode when viewed from below is hilarious. Not the best moment for the aforesaid toy. Its much more fun to be playing with his robot mode where he feels solid and have great articulation and a great number of equipment to permutate with.
     
  6. Alteron_Sheng

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    I almost wish that the 'body' of he Blackbird transformed a bit more like a MP Seeker, as that way the integration would work a bit better/it'd be less obvious that there's a robot there.
    I don't mind the nosecone folding back as it does - I do wish that you could store the gestalt hands or feet in the nosecone however... plug them in from below so the 'bottom' of the foot or back of the hand forms the 'belly' of the jets nosecone kinda thing
     
  7. alex1984

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    Well, BlackBird is a pretty hard alt mode to work with, ROTF Jetfire was also pretty bad too.

    BB isn't THAT undersized, but I do think MMC did a much better job with Leo on the Feral Rex. It wasn't that much bigger than the other bots, and had better proportions as the core.
     
  8. Razor24

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    Nope People who don't have the toy in hand should make a comment about their dislike for the look of it and move on. Not come back over and over again and :horse: 

    You've been following the FR thread, I know you have cause I have seen you comment there. So you have seen how messed up photos can be when you take it with different lenses right? Making judgements on proportions based on pics works most of the time but as you saw in the FR thread sometimes it goes terribly wrong. Same goes for colors. Toyworld's Grindrod in hand was no where near as bright as the pictures showed him to be.

    See my above comment. And lets not forget that the G1 Superion had the longest legs on any TF you've ever come across! :lol 

    You mistook my comment. I didn't buy him just to figure anything out. I bought him because I wanted a Superion. My comment was to point out that yes I agree with the hordes of complaints that TFC could have done better (hide robot kibble better, different jet choice, needs a better chest plate blah blah blah). I personally like him despite his design flaws.
     
  9. TigerBlade

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    You forgot to add that any comparison proportion wise with Devy is a little skewed when you factor in how many members make up his torso. Even then Hercules is still too narrow at the waist really.
     
  10. alex1984

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    Wow, nice colour scheme. This version of Silverbolt actually looks very similar to BB, wonder if that's what they based their design on?
     
  11. Razor24

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    The number of members that make up Herc's torso does play a part to it but BB was already scaled up to compensate. What’s more important is that the comparison pic is off. We already know Uranos is taller than Herc (almost a head taller). They had to scale the Uranos half of the picture down so his head was the same height as Herc's.
     
  12. Turnman

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    I have bought all the releases so far and have posted many pictures of ways to make this lazy thing look better IMO or at least to cover up the shortcomings but really, with such an expensive toy people have to say what they think about it, even those that don’t have it. Should they repeat it all the time? Well, this is a forum, people write in it. If I was a new guy I would welcome other points of view that I would not get because no one should read 1000 pages. Right now you can jump at any moment and soon be up to date with the pros and cons of this thing. There is always the front page if one just wants news like if they were reading a newspaper.

    Another thing: most of us who have parts of Uranos already will tend to look at the remaining parts with better eyes than those that have nothing because we want to finish this once and for all, not have a one armed one legged pillar. The “bitching” non buyers serve to correct that delusion, at least for me.

    Things that continue to bug me and make me thing about continuing with the project:

    - TFC did an almost 100% self contained TF with Herc. They lost that completely with Uranos. They don't even try to make other uses for the kibble like MMC or FP have been doing since forever. Right now there are cool things I could do to better the toy but I have to drill or create pegs to do so. The Tekering mod is awesome and opens a ton of possibilities, but you have to drill your toy.

    - Seriously, the one thing we can't say is that the price TFC is asking for each of these is correct. They are overpriced for the level of work put into them and quality of the material used. The engineering is on par with deluxe figures and BB is… well, he is the definition of LAZY. MMC have made a triple changing torso bot that is just a bit taller than the normal ones. BB is gigantic but still can’t even function correctly as a torso (AND he even has an extra robot to help him).

    - The colors are so badly chosen and randomly applied that they manage to make the one combiner with the most symmetrical form look like Frankenstein.


    BTW, a cost effective and safe way to fix all the loose back kibble? Try rubber bands. Not hearing all the squeaky parts moving and flapping around every time you touch the thing is a blessing. White string can be more discrete.
     
  13. CybertronianFan

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    I'm no expert on jets either, and frankly I don't care about having that expertise. I do not understand why the dislike of BB's alt mode, although many make it seem they are displeased because he's not a concord. TBH, I like their approach towards a combat jet versus a large style airbus. It gives it a very refreshed appeal while still paying homage (big or small) to the original figs.

    I (and strongly believe many others) did not buy Uranos for their accuracy on scale model planes. I bought him cause he's friggin (non)Superion and he looks bad ass in gestalt, individual jets, and individual bot modes knowing full well they aren't scale model jets. He definitely blows Energon/RotF/Universe Superion w/FP Aerial Team Appendage kit complete out of the atmosphere without question.
     
  14. TigerBlade

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    With us knowing BB's plane mode can be removed I'd be all over a fourth party Concorde to stick in its place.
     
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    I agreed with Turnman, TFH is plain lazy when designing Uranos. Or rather taking their foot off when they feel every combiner they make will sell.

    Right now I just want the last 2 made and done with.
    And for the 3rd combiner, will not pre-order any piece till all I have seen all the final colored products.
     
  16. Razor24

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    Who said anything about wanting news only? lets put it this way, if I kept coming back here picking out EVERYTHING I like about each fig and posting it constantly would that get annoying? Of course it would! nit picking is fine and so is praise but all in moderation or else it becomes annoying.

    Correction, you do not represent most of us. I am under no delusion Uranos is perfect. But I still like the fuck out of him and am more than happy I purchased him. I want this project to be finished so I can have a completed Superion not because I'm fed up with the project.

    Makes me laugh that people would begrudgingly finish a set they have no love for just for the sake of "finishing" it. It's a hobby man. You are doing it for fun but when it ain't fun no more why continue? Do yourself a favour and do what Master Blaster did. Bail on the project and cut your losses and save money for stuff you do like. You would still get a decent price on the aftermarket for your existing figures. I would never have something I hate in my collection. Means every time you look at it you just hate it more! :p 

    2 things, G1 Devastator was the only combiner with no feet kibble. So they just did the same thing with Herc.

    Uranos uses the feet as flight stands which only leaves the hands. Where do you propose you stick 2 big ol hands on a bunch of jets without making the jets look ******ed? MMC has been doing it since forever? That's a bit of an exaggeration bro, they haven't even got FR out of the starting blocks yet!

    Ok lets talk price. I can get Phantom shipped (with insurance) for $97.66USD. Aurora (with the same shipping & insurance) costs $77.22USD. Now I'll admit Aurora is better engineered but Phantom does 3 modes and is larger. Larger = more plastic + bigger molds which all cost more.

    Now before you say "but TFC's shit is thin plastic and hollow" I weighed Aurora and Phantom. Aurora is 116grams while Phantom is 134grams so yes still more plastic. :wink: 

    So if you look at it, TFC figures aren't that overpriced. Especially when you look at what Crazy Devy charge for their add on parts. The new Dreamworks Bulkhead upgrade kit is another example. $41.98USD (including shipping and insurance) WTF?! :eek: 

    I can't compare something of roughly equal size like the Feralcons because as we all know RK blew it with MMC but looking at BBTS prices you are looking at $99.99 + S&H to pre-order Falcon and $104.99 + S&H (post early bird) for Bovis.
     
  17. TigerBlade

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    Gotta agree with this. I just sold off the first two members of FP Menasor because I am fed up with it, I decided it wasn't for me (too small) and I thought 'wasting' money on another three parts was a litte silly. Now if I felt anywhere near that for Uranos I'd do the same but I'm looking forward to finishing him.

    Horses for courses I guess.
     
  18. megatroptimus

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    Doesn't sound like a huge challenge to me. They just decided to not to do it.
     
  19. Sentinel

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    Yep, I agree. They just decided it wasn't necessary and put no effort into integration, which sucks IMO but isn't a deal breaker.
     
  20. TigerBlade

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    Did Herc get grief over non integrated hands? I wasn't around during the earlier parts of the Megathread.