Sorry guys, not today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9M4WnUmV0w

 

Felisabe does not count. The fem bots are one mold thats pretty close to done.

The 4 molds release for strike, nova, impactor and the table, forgot his name, are in what looks to be final resin form. They should be faster to role out since they don't combine.

I count 5 non combining molds that are pretty close to done. How much time do they really need to get them into production.

 

I figured we'd get an announcement soon, if they had anything coming---UT's is so "Rex-ish" that anyone who wants an Abominus to go with their Rex, is likely already leaning towards/tempted by UT's---I know I am. And with UT's Not-Blot already in color and releasing in October---the only way to prevent losing people to UT's Rex-ish version----is to announce their own!

UT seems to have learned a lot from Rex and TFC combiners, etc. I can only imagine/hope that MMC's Abominus will improve upon Rex even more than that! UT's feet-weapons are quite brilliant IMHO.

That said---my wish-list for the "ultimate" Abominus:  

1. More toy-based than animation-based. The G1 Terrorcon toys had many small distinct visual cues, that made them unique. Especially alt-modes! The animation greatly "genericized" many of them into "common Hollywood horror-movie" monsters, and lost much of the distinctiveness that was molded into their designs.

2. Best example of that---Hun-Grr's dragon-heads. They have visors! Not a pair of eyes, but angular wrap-around visors! That is AWESOME and I think unique among every dragon I've ever seen. he's not just a "metal" dragon---he's a cyber-dragon, techno-dragon. His spine-scales are very polygonal, he's wearing cyber-shades on each head, has lots of exposed piping, etc. (and considering Felisaber has an alt-mode visor too, I think MMC may like robo-visors as much as I do)

3. Blot's alt-mode has a lot of lee-way due to being almost undefinable, and UT certainly did one of the better interpretations of it I've seen. However, theirs does "walk upright" in alt-mode. Personally, I always think "gorilla" due to the POSE and proportions (do not stand him straight up---lean him 45 degrees forward at the hips, then use his alt-mode neck/head joint---EVERYTHING then literally clicks into place and looks right---he walks hunched over on his hands). If you've got a forward-leaning Blot-monster, then you're doing it right. UT did seem to match his main colors spot-on, however, UT has WAY too much grey/silver, presumably based on the Dreamwave coloring---but even more so. Blot is navy and lavender, period. He only had some silver stickers on his chest, not his whole chest was made of it. Adding in some accent color is fine (like the thighs), but don't re-do the entire torso, especially when it makes up half the visible coloring in limb mode... Also, don't forget his backpack!

4. Cutthroat---Again, toy vs animation. Animation is more of a Pteranodon monster, almost Rodan-like. Toy is much more "bird" than "reptile" to me. Head is very triangular when viewed from above, especially his beak. The animation and toy have completely different alt-mode head designs---long and skinny like Swoop's, vs being almost as broad as it is long. Again--the toy is a much more unique and distinctive creature than the animation. But his design does suffer from the squattest blockiest "tail" of all bird-like TF's ever. Using his gun as a tail helps a bit, and may very well be the best way to deal with it on a new version---making a tail of some sort from weaponry or combiner kibble or something. (that, or make it so the back end can fold up or flip-out and thin itself down for alt-mode)

5. Rippersnapper's easy to make look awesome, and UT did so. Expect an MMC version to be quite similar. Land shark! (hmmn, maybe retool into Overbite.......)   Always did like his "backpack fin-gun"---key thing to look for.

6. Hun-Grr is *almost* like a cyber-dragon-stegosaurus. Short thick tail, plates along his spine. A few little stego-ish aspects wouldn't be a bad thing, vs "purely draconic".

7. "Call of the Primitives" has the coolest head-design for Abominus, period.

8. Overall themes of the Terrorcons---technical---look at all the 'bolted removable access panels' molded into the team---on Abominus' feet, Cutthroat's wings, etc. Also, turbines/thrusters----center of the chestplate, sides of Hun-Grr's rear legs.

My overall impression of the team is very much "cyber-techno" monsters, vs "metal-skinned" monsters, if that makes any sense. The animation was much more "metal-skinned" than cyber-techno. But the toys---techno. Hatches, turbines, visors, angles, etc.

And of course---colors!   Hun-Grr and Rippersnapper are the same color---light grey. Not white! Almost the same color as Streetwise. Much lighter than Rex's grey. And a WARM light grey, not a cool light grey. Simply lightening Rex's grey won't do. Abominus' combiner bits---magenta---very close to Piranacon's magenta color, but Piranacon's are more intense and more pink, Abominus are SLIGHTLY darker and redder, but overall---Abominus and Piranacon have very similarly colored feet.

Blot is navy, while Rippersnapper's accent color is deep blue--lighter than Blot.

Cutthroat is more cream than yellow, he's usually too yellow in most renditions. His wings are a unique color, only his wings and gun are that color among all the parts in the team. Almost a purplish-brick color.

Rippersnapper's yellow is quite orangish, it's one step away from being "a yellow-ish shade of orange". Of course, just mailing the factory a loose G1 set may be easiest. Doesn't need to be complete and stickered, just the base figures will do.  

(yes, Abominus is a fave of mine, he is WAY up there on my combiner wish-list) He's one of the few childhood G1 toys I've re-bought.

 

Bummer.

 

Carnifex better come before this from MMC

 

^That...effing that.

 

Longer probably than you might think.

Seraph has been in resin proto for probably 2 years. There was a first resin prototype that MMC paid to have made, but ended up having engineering problems that prevented it from being tooled. MMC bought its own 3D printer last year, and the new Seraph proto has been shown publicly only within the last couple months.

And even now after they print and tweak their resin protos, MMC still has to ship off the proto or CAD to the factory, which then has to tool the molds. I forget how long griffith said the tooling takes, but I think it could be a couple months. After that, the factory goes into making the test shots. I believe griffith mentioned that MMC often needs more rounds of test shots (it can be 4 or 5 or more) compared to other companies. It takes 3-5 weeks for the factory to fire the test shot, send it to MMC for review, and then another few days or so for MMC to test and spec out revisions. Then repeat the 3-5 weeks for a new test shot round. This can stretch into a half year easily.

Of course, griffith said all these things a year ago, so maybe by now MMC has gotten quicker with this process.

 

Amen.

I wrote in the other thread that I could live with visor-less dragon heads (those were a bit goofy) but then again visors on the dragon heads and a visor on the bot head is Geewun and a nice visual link between modes.

Ah, so this is the colour comment I was looking for. My thoughts exactly and I posted as much in the Ordin thread. Ditch the grey and darken that Blot up! And silver is at most an accent as you say.

Keep the weird flying monster toy look I say. He's an undefined winged gargoyle-beast thing, not really a proper pteranodon or real-life birdy. And the double-barrelled blaster is very distinctive; gotta have that.

I posted in the other thread that I'd like MMC to keep to a 1 + 4 approach. Ideally Hun-grrr should be Leo Dux sized but the Terrorcon limb guys shouldn't be as tall or bulky as the rest of the Feral Cons. Overall, if MMC's Abominus was about Herc height or a smidge taller (i.e. shorter than Rex by a bit), that would be ideal for me.

 

Oh yeah, that's another thing--torso size.

Leo Dux is kinda fat in robot mode. But torso mode is SO much better for it, it's totally worth the trade-off. The torso makes or breaks the combiner team, and IMHO Leo Dux in torso mode, is the best 3P combiner torso all-round, period. Literally all-round---looking at Rex's torso from the sides or rear shows its superiority best. It's a full 360 torso, not just "a robot wearing a big chest plate" that is very obvious when viewed from anywhere but the front. UT's "Ordin" has a waist that is only a little wider than his head!!! (ignore his chestplate, look at the actual waist)--I can only imagine what he looks like from the side or rear.

Luckily, as Hun-Grr has always been bigger than his other team members, they can have an even greater difference, and he might not need to be quite so bulky in robot mode, to still "look good" in torso mode. Hmmn, maybe the dragon mode front legs could fold-down (or even parts-form) onto the dragon necks, to "beef them up" as thighs? (otherwise Abominus tends to have long skinny thighs)

 

Yeah by having a 1 + 4, the proportions on the combined form might look better ... arms and legs not so beefcake as Rex (who is allowed to be a roidformer because that's how he was in the G1 toy  ).

Ordin has a girly waist, but I think creative posing could help to hide that.

 

I'm sure this will be amazing, but I kind of wish MMC wouldn't bother with any of the Scramble City combiners.

 

guys, pls understand that this is not official, and even if it was true originally, MMC may have changed their mind since botcon, as they may have for some of their other project(s), or put it in the back indefinitly. I will wait for MMC to confirm they really want to do this, or still want to proceed.

 

Early bird Pre-Order will be up soon...

 

 

It is official and it is coming.

 

I think zfarsh is right. I don't doubt that MMC told G1 Hexatron that the next combiner they do is Abominus. But that doesn't mean they actually made plans or designs for it yet. They could have easily said it as what they want to do it as their next combiner during conversation with just intention behind it, and not actual plans on the table. Besides if they did want to do Abominus he's a 2017 release at earliest. Shoot we haven't even seen prototypes for Carnifax yet, so I doubt we have secret Abominus stuff going on behind the scenes.

But what do I know? I talk out of my ass a lot.

 

Both zfarsh and Dek, Dr. Killinger says he has seen it. He is apparently limited in what he can share, but there is substance somewhere.

EDIT: Found his original post to quote.

 

Or, due to how much flack they took over the time between Rex's reveal and delivery, maybe this time they're going to do like MT (and now it seems, UT) and wait to have color pics of production-ready limbs the day it goes up for pre-order a month before it's released...

 

I love MMC but there's a time coming soon when I will need to put collecting aside and focus on other matters. As such, I'd like to get as many of the G1 combiners out of the way as soon as possible. MMC has until October to show us something otherwise I'm going ahead with UT, which looks like an MMC product anyway.

 

All MMC has to do is show a silhouette of Blot as an arm, and say "see, ours is more G1!". And there you go, for many 3P collectors.

 

Yes but has Dr. K seen prototypes, CAD designs, or design sketches? If he can reveal I hope Dr. K will, if not I'm not going to get too excited.

Shit, now that I think about it I don't even like any other combiners other than Predaking! I got no dog in this race I'm bowing out, but let me know if there's any cool MMC individual bot modes. But to those who do want this, it's MMC so I know every one's going to get the best Abominus they can make.