your opinion, is this stealing?

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  1. Autobot78

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    i am so pissed about this and i dont want to be....
    1. sunday august 21st 2011 3:50pm (dum dum) i posted this on my vtc page
    Chris Sterett
    somebody please photo shop me a shattered glass devy so i can take to kinkos blow it up frame it and then droool over it ? please please please
    2. sunday august 21st 2011 5pm. medrifogmatio post a digibash of his "take" on what i was asking for. (first pic in this post)
    3. sunday august 21st 2011 5:06pm (dum dum) i post these suggestions
    "I LOVE IT, THERE IS A LITTLe TO MUCH RED LIKE ON SCRAPPER WHAT WOULD BE HIS ARMS IN ROBOTMODE ARE RED IN THIS PIC AND PROBALLY SHOULD BE WHITE ALoNG WITH BONECRUSHER AND HOOK IS ALL RED AND SHOULD BE WHITE, BUT I STILL LOVE IT THANK YOU SO MUCH I CAN SEE YOU DID WAY MORE DEATIL THAN I EXPECTED AND A WAY BETTER JOB THANK YOU SO MUCH."
    at 5:07pm
    "OH AND A RED CROSS ON HIS CHEST AND ON TOP OF SCRAPPER'S ROOF :) "
    4. in this same thread venom is asking me questions about how it should be.
    5. monday august 22nd 2011 via private messages on fb ( if need be i will copy and paste them as well to show exactly what was said) venom sent a image to me with the suggestions i gave medrifogamtio and i was very impressed, he asked what else would i do to it? i said
    "i still think the red crosses on the 2 bulldozers should be on their hoods but damn its very detailed and way better colors"
    "you know the cement mixing barrel? it purple on reg version so it should b red on this one"
    "will you help me make a pic for a possible commision. you have what you like, medrifogmatio has what he likes, and i have what i like we should make an album of the sg devy that each of us likes"
    "we will see who's is best :)  hahahahahahahha
    imho there is no best just opinions?"
    "like stevens is really cool but imho way way too much red
    your and mine will look alot alike
    hey change my chest symbol so its different from yours"
    "im excited im going to make a vtc sg devy album right now
    we will have three versions now
    let me know when yours is done and send me it so i can add to album
    ok? album is made!"
    but this is where i gave venom the finishing suggestions for "my" version of sg devy.
    6. now that the album is made i had just uploaded medrifogmatio's version and about to add venom's when a pic pops up in the album with the description "venom's sg devy" which it clearly was not, it was mine!
    he knew the whole purpose of the album (i mean the album's name is "VTC'S members' take on shattered glass devy.") is to have all these different pics of sg devy with the names of the members whos idea or "take" was on a sg devy. but he post mine as his own and gets rid of his original.
    7. i confronted him about it and all i got was oh it was my idea i have it first, which is mind boggling considering i have all our converstion saved in my facebook messages with times and dates, plus not to mention i have wanted a sg devy for years, i was talking to xaviercal about a sg crazydevy devastator back in aug of 09, so he can save all that "it was my idea" business
    so yeh the first pic is original done by medrifogmatio, dont have venoms original, but the 2nd pic was the finished copy that venom did with all my suggestions. so please give your opinions, thanks
     

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  2. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

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    I have no idea what the hell is going on in your post, but I don't like it.
     
  3. exclusacon

    exclusacon Expert with the Scopes!

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    Not really, nobody owns the original art.....it just photoshop....
     
  4. Scantron

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    I didn't read all that but, yeah, no one involved here actually owns the original piece of art; it's just recoloring a picture drawn (and published) by someone else.

    Although, I must admit, I hope that if I ever get seriously injured, the Red Cross will send out a wheel-loader and cement mixer to come help me.
     
  5. Autobot78

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    i was little emotional while typing, i went back and made some corrections and added alot of quotation marks to make easier to understand.
    im asking is it stealing to make a image for me or based 100% off my suggestions that he is asking me for then claiming it as his own ideas?
     
  6. exclusacon

    exclusacon Expert with the Scopes!

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    Well since you put it like that...yes...it was your idea...
     
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    Take him to the Supreme Court.
     
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    exclusacon Expert with the Scopes!

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    Na, Judge Judy. She's more fun!
     
  10. exclusacon

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    If he goes to judge brown, nobody gets to talk, esp.if you are a man....
     
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    ... seriously though, what about the person who drew the original? You know, the one that was used without the artist's permission in the first place? That seems like the real victim here.
     
  12. Metal Chaos

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    This is unjustifiable, you should take his face in the name of justice.
     
  13. Moonscream

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    Considering the artwork wasn't yours in the first place, you can't really call 'stolen!' But he did lie about the credit for the color selections you posited to him. So realize he's a lying bastard who takes credit for other people's ideas and don't deal with him anymore.

    --Moony
     
  14. Ziero

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    You thought it up, he did the photoshopping...neither of you actually own the original image.

    No theft here since theft includes a loss of some kind on the part of the original owner, and not only are you not the "owner" of the image, you haven't been deprived of said image either, their is no theft here. At all.

    He took credit for your "ideas", which seemed to have been mixed with other people's "ideas" including some of his own. But even that is barely an issue here. At worst, this guy is only guilty of being kinda douche, and even that's stretching it.

    Long story short, it's a non-issue.
     
  15. Gingerchris

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    ^ That.
    Take him to the Omega Supreme Court. That's where all Transformers related justice is served.
     
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    Not at all.
     
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    Can't say that it is for obvious reasons.

    p.s. Your opening post was a pain in the ass to read.
     
  18. MetalRyde

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    oh my god i forgot how to read!
     
  19. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    No it isn't.

    They do look different if you actually look at the pictures carefully. Simmilar concept just different.
     
  20. AutobotMaximal

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    I'm pretty sure you 2 guys could find more important things to argue over than some art piece.
     

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