Your ISP is watching you

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  1. Soundman006

    Soundman006 the Doctor

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  2. The Dark Seeker

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    I can see this going really well.....
     
  3. Metal Chaos

    Metal Chaos The Spark of Chaos

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    What's next? Are they going to monitor how many users are fapping? I'm sure they'll find a way to link internet initiated fapping to global warming and terrorism in the future, best enjoy it while we can.
     
  4. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP AKA Beve Stuscemi

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    You know what bugs me about all this? It's not that it's trying to stop piracy. I'm okay with that. It's that it's up to individuals to decide what piracy is, and the power their given to combat said piracy.
     
  5. TheIncredibleHulk

    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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    I work for an ISP. So let me tell you how it works, at least according to my company.

    We're notified by the owner of the property that this IP Xxx.Xxx.Xxx.Xxx has downloaded and/or shared property Y. We call subscriber Z and let them know that we've been notified by company B that they downloaded and/or shared property Y and they should stop. In most cases, this should prevent any legal action that company B decides to take against subscriber Z. I say "most" because there's always that chance that company B decides to just say the hell with it and sues the shit out of subscriber Z.

    Ok, so lets say we call subscriber Z, let them know the situation, and subscriber Z continues to download/share property Y. The ISP will throttle subscriber A's connection until the ISP is able to talk to them again and have them e-sign a document basically saying "I'm sorry and I wont do it again".

    Now, lets say it continues still. The ISP shuts the connection off completely, contacts subscriber Z again, at this time, they have 24 hours to e-sign another document, basically saying "I'm still sorry and promise to never do it again" or the ISP will disconnect me.

    ISPs are trying to educate subscribers, and hopefully get them to stop before company B decides to sue the shit out them.

    At no point during all of this, does company B know the identity of subscriber Z, unless a subpoena is provided.

    I hope this makes sense, as I'm quite drunk right now and on my kindle.

    As an added bonus, if you subscribe to Armstrong Cable as your ISP, you might actually get a call from me personally, since, as a member of our lead technician team, I've been selected to have to deal with this shit. I'm not happy with it, lord knows I've done my share of downloading, so please don't give me crap about having to call you.
     
  6. Dolza_Khyron

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    in other words, if you just don't share copyrighted material, or download it, you'll be fine :lol 
     
  7. Blackout32

    Blackout32 Subdivisions

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    Man I miss the GOOD OL' days of the internet when it FIRST really got started back in 95'.
     
  8. TheIncredibleHulk

    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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    Pretty much.

    Everybody thinks that if they don't share it, they wont get in trouble. Downloading will get you into just as much shit.
     
  9. MegaMoonMan

    MegaMoonMan OFFICIAL MMM REP

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    Is this going to apply to torrents of TV shows? That's all I download these days.
     
  10. GogDog

    GogDog Logic's wayward son Veteran

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    It's mostly premium networks like HBO that care about that stuff.

    There really isn't a legal precedent for public access stuff like CBS and ABC and such, because you can get those shows for free off the airwaves and are allowed to share it for private use. I'm sure those networks would love to stop torrents of their shows, but they don't have the balls to ever take it to the courts.

    Like I said though, HBO and Showtime and those guys, they have and will go after piracy for their stuff.
     
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    So watching YouTube won't risk me getting my internet killed? I'm really looking forward to episode 8 season 2 of Transformers Prime, and I don't think it's airing here any time soon. Though it may not be uploaded and I'll have to wait anyway.


    Of course, for all I know this could just be for America.
     
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    My company does something similar. Except, we don't call people. We send them an e-mail or letter :) 

    But still.....I know somehow, some way....people will find a way around all this.

    "Where there's a will, there's a way."
     
  13. BooyakaDragon

    BooyakaDragon I Don't Even Know

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    So, basically I can't watch a video without getting arrested. I love how the government is more concerned about copyright than trouble with other countries.
     
  14. Eric

    Eric Per sempre marciamo.

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    I'd say something, but it would be breaking rule 3 here.
     
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    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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    We send them letters too. We only call them if they get so many complaints.
     
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    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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    Youtube will be fine. I'm sure if there's copyrighted material, they'll deal with youtube themselves.
     
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    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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    I don't believe the government has anything to do with this. And you can get sued for downloading, not arrested.
     
  18. Hot Shot.

    Hot Shot. Giving up on the fiction.

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    Does anyone think comics and anime will be an issue? I've downloaded back-issues and licensed anime(Evangelion, FLCL, Gundam) in the past.

    And I'm assuming copyright holders only get your IP by requesting from the source sites, correct?
     
  19. Deceptijohn

    Deceptijohn Metallikato Master

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    They have tried the sue everyone tactic and it hasn't worked, but their strategy with this seems to be to make the use of the internet as horrible as TV and movie distribution is now so that it isn't a viable alternative to the channels of distribution they control. That's why they don't even say they will cut people off completely but rather throttle them, insert onerous popups to tell you how evil you are etc etc...

    My personal belief is that short of cutting off everyone's internet there will always be a workaround. To quote "Serenity": You can't stop the signal.


    This is the ISPs doing this not the copyright holders. So, basically the people that can monitor every bit of traffic to and from everywhere have appointed themselves the attack dogs of the content creation industries.
     
  20. Deceptijohn

    Deceptijohn Metallikato Master

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    hmmm...yes "It's not my fault, I'm just following orders"... never heard that one before...
     

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