Customs: you wanted to see some difference in chrome?!!

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  1. encline

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    Well, these pics are not that great, but it will give you an idea.

    To spray correctly, you must wait for the black gloss base to be almost completely dry. I have found ALSA Mirror chrome and Alclad II to be the most durable.

    I will be honest, you can see a difference with the Mirror chrome than all the others, including spaz stick mirror chrome. But, for doing everyday chrome, go with ALCLAD II. It is almost as reflective. But when sprayed correct, well, look at the difference. (optimus head was not buffed yet)
    Alsa mirror chrome($80.00 per 4oz)
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    ALCLAD II (this is what I am working on but ran out of black base and ALCLAD II
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    Hey encline. Just curious what base paints are you using for the Alclad?
    I found that using gloss black Krylon fusion gives the same if not better results than the alclad black base.....and its cheaper.

    But the mirror looks pretty too. Just don't want to pay $80 for it. (yeah im cheap :) 
     
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    That's really awesome. 2 questions though. How much is the ALCLAD II per oz.? Also, what did you use to get the blues and reds so shiny on the OP in that pic?
     
  4. encline

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    krylon.. really. how does it lay out? smooth enough? I have used the ALCALD black base, but man it stays tacky forever and gets all kinds of crap in it!!! I hear you about the $80, I am just glad there are options.

    ALCLAD II is like $8.00 for 2oz or something. That is why I say unless you just need to, go with alclad.

    The reds and blue are actually transparent acrylic Tamyira (I don't know how to spell it) paints, airbrushed over the mirror chrome. It keeps the reflectiveness of the chrome, gives it color, and protects it!!
     
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    I honestly think the Krylon fusion goes on better(easier, spray and walk away), smoother, faster, and "dries in 15 minutes".

    I used the same Tamiya method with my Sideswipe & Sunstreaker set. Stuff is wonderful-I <3 Tamiya. And they have all different colors of transparents. Tamiya is all that I bother to use anymore.
     
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    Yay for Tamiya and all things Jap!! Ahem..Hehe!
     
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    OK, i have just gotten my Alclad II, because of this thread. Now, i just need to know what you use for buffing, and also to protect the chrome?
     
  8. encline

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    mirror chrome is the only one that needs to be buffed. When you spray it it builds up, so when it gets buffed it knocks off the unnecessary pigments.
     
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    I still think the alsa looks better, don't get me wrong, alclad is awesome, but that alsa mirror chrome is gorgereous (yea, its spelled wrong on purpose).
     
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    Ok, forgot this too, the alclad in this picture, to me, looks more like polished metal to me, not chrome unfortunately. Not saying it looks horrible, just not as good as the alsa brand.
     
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    ok so spray the alclad while the base still has a lil bit of tackness to it...?...i remember some 1 mentioned this....for the alclad to have more of a durable finish ...
     
  12. encline

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    It helps I have noticed. BUT THERE IS A FINE LINE TIME LIMIT. Which as a pinter, you know how that goes. To tacky and it dulls the shine, to dry and it is not as durable.

    I just tried the fusion, I have to get my can techniques down to lay it out flat!!!
     
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    Damn right! Not to sound stereo typical but, it seems like most Japanese stuff is made to last (Though I still prefer Ford over Honda).


    When I use the Krylon, I let it dry the 15 minutes (or 20-25) then I go right on with the Alclad. Seems to come out a bit more shinny/reflective. I am not sure about durability, I haven't exactly tested for that. And not buff, but I rub it down when its dry with a "soft cloth", no elbow grease needed.
     
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    Would you mind if you get the chance to test the durability of the Krylon/Alclad combo? Maybe on a scrap. That would really make this process seem more accessible to me if it has comparable or superior chip/flake/rub resistance.

    Is it also true that chrome makes it go faster? That's what my hot rodding buddies say!:p 
     
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    Will do. I am spraying my next custom tommorow morning, i'll do a piece then.
     
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    I appreciate that bud! Looking forward to it.:thumbs2: 
     
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    why not dump some of the krylon into an airbrush ...?
     
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    no reason. i know guys who do thatt and i think i might start
     
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    Just how would you go about doing that? just spray it into the little bottle? And what kind of thinner would you use to clean the gun? I know krylon has xylol in it to help fuse with the plastic).

    Anywho tried testing the durability of chrome alclad on Transformer plastic and styrene. I sprayed Gloss Black krylon fusion on a piece of 1/4" round stock tube styrene. I let it dry for 30 minutes exactly. Did the same with voyager RotF Primes parts (grill, guns, gas tanks). I cut the styrene tube in half and rubbed the sticks together like I was starting a forrest fire. At first there was no show of wear, but eventually it rubbed of in the areas I rubbed them together. (I did rub them pretty hard). The transformer RotF Prime, the moment I transformed his guns the parts rubbed and I saw some of the black base. Suprisingly the styrene had a much more durable finish. I sprayed them equally and dusted on the alclad. Only thing I can think of if the styrene had a better bond with the fusion, beings it was straight plastic, and Primes guns are abs I believe.? Another note, When I cut the styrene, the chrome kinda flaked off, not gonna cut Primes guns, but I am not sure if that I would have Primes guns that would have happened.

    I am gonna try some more tommorow. I think I am allergic to the alclad or the lacquer thinner. Broke out in hives after I sprayed them. I'll find out tommorow for sure.

    hope that was informative.

    Mac
     
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    Interesting for sure. I am going to do the same test with mirror chrome. I bought 8oz of that stuff so I can spare a 1/16th of an oz for the good of all:)  Last time I used mirror chrome the base rubbed off before the chrome. So I will try it again.

    I think Frenzy-Rumble sprays krylon into a bottle. I have cleaned up fusion with laquer thinner or non-acetone nail polish remover before.
     

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