I never really make topics, so this is like my 3rd one. I want to talk about ( and a little ranting as well) about pre-earth Beast Wars. I've been doing alot on my Myth Wars project and i was thinking about Cybertron in the Beast Wars universe. And with all the talk of the new Botcon toys. Well i was wondering why everyone thinks that they are all vehicles? Theres no evidence that they have vehicles modes or that they have alt modes at all. I rewatched beast wars over again they never talked about having an alt mode or being vehicles. And the Tripredacus council cleary didnt have an alt mode (and dont use the "Well they did't have the money to make them look like they had an alt mode. I get really tired of that excuse from people." I understand it for the real show charactes. But the Preds in the background on cybertron could have been animated with alt modes, since they were new models.) As much as Rattrap complained, you would think he would complained about having a non-vehicle mode. Also in Beast Wars II they didn't look like they were vehicles at all either. Plus why would Optimus PRIMAL be a vehicle (hes got PRIMAL in hes freaking name. Not Optimus truckamus) and yes i know Simon Furman said Primals pre-earth mode was a monster truck and megatron was some kind of battle machine. But hes not Hasbro/Takara. So he can say all he wants till it comes from one of those companies mouth, Hes just a fan writer to me.( a very good one, so everyone doesnt freak out. I do like Simon Furman. And i do enjoy hes work. So dont thnk im bashing on him). And alot of people talk about they had different names before they came to earth. But it never said that in the show or even hinted at it. Why could Terrorsaur still be called Terrorsaur and have an alt mode like Cybertron Brimstone? And since they faction is called Maximals (mammals) don't you think they would have animal alt modes? Why would they call themselves Maximals and be vehicles? Samething with the Predacons, I don't know of any preying vehicles. oh and there was a topic before about why Predacons say terrorize, well more than likely its cause the Predacons are based on both the G1 Predacons and the G1 terrorcons. Since the Terrorcons were all monsters and such it makes alot of sence. It just makes more sence that they all mostly had animal modes on cybertron Like G1 characters did. Later in G1 there was more and more animal modes showing up. And the Pretenders showing up too. So maybe in the future (beast wars time) they see animals as a superior alt mode. Or animal alt modes are more fuel effective, But who knows. And sorry for the errors in spelling, I had to type this really fast cause i gotta go to work soon.