WTF @ TFW - 477 - September 17 2017

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  1. Vangelus

    Vangelus Long Live the New Flesh Moderator Content Contributor

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    WTF @ TFW - 477 - September 17 2017

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    Seth and Vangelus finish talking Hascon reveals, deduce the science of the Star Wars Toy Metric, and at one point discuss a body pillow.

    - Opening
    - Intro
    - Listener Question from Halfsight
    - Hascon Will Con: Part II
    - Listener Question from badlander86
    - Listener Question from GWolfv2
    - What We Got This Week
    - Ending and Outro

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  2. Spyne98

    Spyne98 Well-Known Member

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    Listening as I type this, but got too excited not to comment when I heard Battle Beasts. I love those little armored death animals! I got a complete line up of the American ones.
     
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  3. Gojira Prime

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    So, is the silence in place of Seth's responses at the very beginning intentional?

    EDIT: just as a quick reference, I put the price of a Beast Wars Deluxe, $10, in an inflation calculator and it came out to 15.90, and generally, at least in my area, current deluxes hover around $16, so Transformers seems to have been better about its prices than Star Wars and Marvel.

    Then again, like Seth mentioned, with those two, licensing is a bigger thing these days.
     
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  4. hupla

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    Vangelus said on twtitter he'll have a fixed version of the episode up late tonight
     
  5. Seth Buzzard

    Seth Buzzard R.I.P. Buzzbeak Content Contributor

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    I'll have to listen to see what you meant but I was struggling with Internet connection issues during the recording so I don't know if that played into anything. That or I was distracted by something shiny at that moment.
     
  6. Silent_Magnus

    Silent_Magnus Taint of Primus

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    I'm pretty happy about getting a new Optimal Optimus. One that can get rid of the chest cannons in robot mode even.
    BUT! I still wish someone(Arcee) who doesn't have a pre-existing upgraded form(Arcee) would have won.(Arcee!)

    We could have had a super robot Arcee! I hope there's some basic sketch of that somewhere.

    As for non-transforming toys. I still want a comprehensive line of 1/12th or smaller action figures of the human(oid) characters.
    Season 3 Sari is on the top of that wish list.

    Star Wars talk:
    I still haven't gotten an Ahsoka. I've seen a bunch of Kanans but never her.
     
  7. That Guy

    That Guy Well-Known Member

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    Everyone knows Vangelus didn\'t rip off the Buffy/Angel character, but rather greek composer Evangelos Odysseas Papathanassiou of Blade Runner fame.
     
  8. GAUGE

    GAUGE Tin Foil Hats = Alternative Facts

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    this chart study is from 2014 but you get the jest of it:

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    There's also this chart:

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    ...and this one:

    Screenshot_14.jpg
     
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  9. GAUGE

    GAUGE Tin Foil Hats = Alternative Facts

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    I think Toy sales overall are doing just fine. (judging by the charts I've been looking at)

    Here's a decent site to look up toy sales data: Topic: Toy Industry
     
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  10. GAUGE

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    sorry for posting too much. But found this interesting chart as well:

    Screenshot_15.jpg
     
  11. Destron23

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    As you were mentioning all the details about Rippersnapper... couldn\'t help but wonder if they did some retooling if he\'d make a suitable Repugnus?
     
  12. Knightsword

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    FYI the recent Darth Vader and OT Stormtrooper (blue helmet vents) are meant to be the Rebels versions.
     
  13. SirPwntALot

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    I\'m gonna make a pretty sure assumption the Optimal Optimus cockpit is where the matrix will go on the figure, so by extension you could also fit a Titan master in there
     
  14. Halfsight

    Halfsight Self Proclaimed Evil-con

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    Thanks for answering my question! I remember as a kid that I could buy 2 GI Joes for $5 bucks even after tax (grew up in Ga) and I know it played a huge part in my love of toys. Giving 8 year old me $20 bucks meant my parents were stuck in the same isle in toysrus for an hour as poured thru every figure on the pegs ( maybe why we never went there much). As I said in the question I\'ve just seen first hand parents refusing to pay prices on ML, Black series and TFs and got me to thinking. 
     
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    Between 2012 and what 2013 on the retail revenue chart there is what I believe to a person in the industry would call a hard fall. Subsequent numbers in that chart would suggest the industry is still recovering from that drop.
    I believe the current toy price and sales situation is a result of a number of number of factors, most of which Seth and Vangelus touched upon. There's inflation, but also manufacturing costs have probably increased. Consumers have gotten more picky about products over the years too, which does lead to higher demands for quality. There's more expectations for action figures lately.

    For Transformers, collectors have become a larger slice of the pie, but that's because the pie is smaller now. Digital toys are a very real competitor to physical toys. Certain brands of chips and things that used to boast a small plastic thing inside now have an AR card or a code for a smartphone game more often. Sometimes it's because it's cheaper to make, but usually it's because that's what kids are interested in more. I have cousins who are at the age when I was just starting to get into action figures who couldn't care less about figures but rave about tablet games.

    I have argued against the put forth by Aaron Archer that the industry may become largely collector-oriented, but that's looking more and more to be the case recently. As long as there's movies I don't think the non-collector demographic will disappear completely, but in a case where they were to stop making films, and there's no mega-hit cartoon, I could see things ending up similar to the Japanese market where Americans pay $25 for a deluxe, but a deluxe aimed at them. Yay?

    At least it's unlikely to ever reach the point of GI Joe, where the very core concept just stopped being appealing.
     
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    Thanks, it hasn't been an issue for the rest of the show, I just found myself wondering if this was a bit that I wasn't getting.
     
  17. Vangelus

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    Fixed version should now be up

    it was just in the opening few minutes, when I was trying to clean up some noise garageband very helpfully like a betrayal scum also trimmed off a bunch of Seth's audio in those opening few minutes
     
  18. Icantthinkofagoodname

    Icantthinkofagoodname Amateur Transformers customizer

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    The Rock needs to either turn into a nose or an oven, to play off the "can you smell what the Rock is cooking?" line
     
  19. Wreckgar

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    Can't we just dress Ramhorn up like the Rock and paint him blue?
     
  20. Requiem Prime

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    I really hope The Ape paired with Primal has its own identity.

    Freeman talk: they confirmed figma Genji so we're at half a team. I doubt we'll get complete even with other sources, but I'd be surprised if figma didn't do Pharah (she's essentially Samus with wings).
     

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