Why were very few Decepticons introduced in the 1986 movie?

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  1. Bass X0

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    Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge.

    We won't count Gnaw since Sharkticons weren't actually Decepticons.


    The Autobots had several brand new characters yet Megatron still had the same group of Decepticons he has had since since season one and two.

    Maybe the producers counted the Sweeps as new Decepticons too but since they weren't important to the storyline at all, they made them all look like Scourge.
     
  2. Fit For natalie

    Fit For natalie tfwiki nerd

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    Good guy toys usually sell better than bad guy toys, so individual good guy toys are usually more numerous.
     
  3. Ash from Carolina

    Ash from Carolina Junior Smeghead

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    The answer is fairly simple. When you've got a character like Galvatron to be the threat in a movie you don't need an army of bad guys any more. If they wouldn't have had a main villain that size and that powerful then they would have needed a new Decepticon army to fight the new Autobot army.
     
  4. AMG

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    The Sweeps made for an unlimited Decepticon army in the cartoon. So they were pretty much the balance to all the new Autobots. Galvatron, Cyclonus & Scourge were all the new characters Hasbro really needed to make.
     
  5. OptimusSolo

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    Like the first guy said. It was pretty standard to have more good characters than bad characters. Look at how it was originally...

    Decepticons (5 or 10 if you count the cassettes) = Megatron, Soundwave, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Starscream (Ravage, Rumble, Frenzy, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw)

    Autobots (18)

    Second Year - Decepticons (24/29) Autobots (44)

    So it was pretty consistant - nothing new as far as the movie proportions go
     
  6. soundwave86

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    It's because the new decepticons were selfconcious :p .
     
  7. Zherbus

    Zherbus In Shogo Hasui, we trust.

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    Because Decepticons touch themselves at night.
     
  8. jorod74

    jorod74 Psycholagnist (Ret.)

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    maybe because the Seekers were the real Bad-asses and after they were pushed aside for those "sweeps" bricks, Hasbro admitted defeat?
    tried to bring em back?

    Cyclonus and Galvatron were good, but they needed real Seekers.
     
  9. New Soundwave

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    I agree. This may not be the case in today's time but it was true in the 80's.
     
  10. Autoborst

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    I think it was because Hasbro couldn't come up with any more terrible toy designs. IMO, the movie toys and beyond were simply some of the worst looking TF toys for it's time. With exception to Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus (the only figure I bought and even he was barely passable) all the others looked like ass.

    Kup and Blurr? LOL
    Cyclonus and Scourge? Ridiculous.
    Galvatron looked like a trashcan.
    Magnus was a solid block that took no thought or design skill at all to create.

    Unfortunately, this is what happens when you allow US toy manufacturers to take over the technical designs for the Japanese - glorified Gobots with transformations that could only challenge a 2-year old.
     
  11. Easterling Capt

    Easterling Capt I am Vern Schillinger

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    Magnus is a diaclone toy and not a Hasbro mold.
     
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    Autoborst Well-Known Member

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    I forgot about that. Thank you for that correction.
     
  13. Easterling Capt

    Easterling Capt I am Vern Schillinger

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    no probs, but I understnad a bit of your point. Blurr and Kup are not the greatest molds out there but I think Cyclonus is actually good and so is Scourge
     
  14. Bass X0

    Bass X0 King of Muay Thai

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    Huh. I completely forgot about Ratbat.
     

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