Why the PS3 is a "Computer" (when it really isn't)

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  1. Xcandescent

    Xcandescent TRUKKS are the new MUNKYS

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    I was originally gonna quote some new (and still bizarre) Kutaragi comments, but then I stumbled on this:
    If it's true (which I don't know, since I have no clue about EU tariffs), then there are layers and layers of irony here. Sony, a company completely obsessed with copy protection and proprietary stuff, would be distributing an Open Source OS with their super-proprietary Blu-Ray console, as a tax dodge.

    On the other hand, if it isn't true ... well, Sony still doesn't look so good.

    -XCN-
     
  2. Jux

    Jux Please, call me Steve. Veteran

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    Eh, everything's a computer these days to an extent. It just depends on the definition.
     
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    "Embark on an exciting adventure through the innards of your operating system! Pursue mini-quests to get various parts of your PS3 working properly! Learn the ways of the elite Slashdot Guild!"
     
  4. McBradders

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    Linux shipped with PS2's on launch in Europe.

    And a version of BASIC called something weird.

    I dunno.

    But I love the fun ways everyone is coming up with to beat the dead horse. I look forward to more.
     
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    *pauses to look up from stone tablet and chisel*

    Eh?

    *mutters something about kids these days*
     
  6. Boardwise

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    Is there anything left of the dead horse to beat?
     
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    I remember that about it not being a computer. They were arguing that an alienware pc was just as much of a gaming platform as the ps2 was.
     
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    The Playstation is a video computer system just like everything before it.
     
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    Oh man. Please tell me you've got a link to that; I love a good laugh.
     
  12. Boardwise

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  13. Ops_was_a_truck

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    PS3 a computer? I BELIEVE IT! :rolleyes2 
     
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    it is a computer. gameboy was a computer. NES was a computer. every game system is a computer.

    the problem is that people's general idea of what a "computer is" has changed from the actual definition.
     
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    Ops_was_a_truck JOOOLIE ANDREWWWWWS!!!!!!

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    Is that a problem or a shift in the cultural paradigm? It seems to me that if you went up to the average anyone and asked them what a computer was, they'd point at a PC; if you asked them what a video game platform is, they'd point at a Nintendo or a PS2 or a Gamecube (or etc.)

    Convincing people that a video gaming system is a computer might work for the legal world - you're right, as long as a piece of technology computes data, it is a "computer" - but it ain't gonna ring true with a lot of normal folks. Personally, I see this as another poop on Sony's image (and it is their fault) - and right now, they need a lot less o' that.
     
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    This explosion of bad feeling toward Sony is fucking ridiculous to the point of absurdity.

    This is;

    a) concerning Europe only. Why do any of you give a crap anyway?

    b) been done already with PS2. Nobody said shit back then.

    c) a tax break that can be passed on to CONSUMERS.


    But, no, of course. Bad, bad Sony. Anything they do is bad. Are they breathing? OMG BAD!
     
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    Because I live IN Europe.
    I wouldn't know about that; I wasn't watching message board threads on the topic back then. Were you?
    So it'll be reflected in the European launch price then, right?
    Only the bad things. Unfotrunately, there seem to be rather a lot of them.
     
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    If I could be arsed, the giant rolleyes would be posted RIGHT HERE > <

    And yes, I noticed mostly nobody gave a crap that Sony Europe made the effort to keep the PS2 affordable back then. There were articles highlighting the effort, people wiping brows because it wasn't going to be astronomically expensive.

    Given the PS3's already higher than average price, avoiding having the Eurotax shoved on is... good news? YES, I rather think it is. Regardless of opinion here, some people still want to buy one.

    But I could sit here and type until I am blue in the face about how utterly ridiculous this is. I'm not going to. I'm already wasting bandwidth.

    But who cares? Roll on Wii.
     
  19. Boardwise

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    So, Sony Eurpoe are trying to lower the price of the PS3, helping the consumer, and yet you still find fault with them?
    Besides, don't you have a wedding to save up for?
    If it was me I'd be trying to save money for that, rather than spend it on something I didn't really need.
    Or is it just the case you'll moan about anything?

    Exactly. You didn't know about it back then because the topic wasn't in the spot light back then, but now it is people are coming out of the woodwork to moan about it.

    As far as I know, there has been no official confirmation of the European price. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

    Or perhaps it's just a case that people are focusing on the bad points and not able to see past the rose tinted glasses they seem to be waring?
     
  20. Superman_Alpha

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    Ever been in a bar fight with a really obnoxious drunk? This is like kicking that drunk guy's ass, all the while he's still talking smack about how awesome he is while you're beating him senseless. "I know kung-fu, bitsh. I'm gonna kick yer *hic* ash just as soon as yoo let go of my neck." It's sad to know that anyone could ever be so deluded with themselves to believe their own bullshit, no matter what led to that delusion.

    But you're still going to laugh about it with your buddies the next day, when you tell them about what a complete loser this guy was.

    Of course if you want a REALLY great laugh, go to the Sony fanboards and watch the obnoxious drunk guy's friends argue that their guy really did kick your ass, cause he told them so. And he's too kewl to lie about stuff like that.
     

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