Why no Decepticon Plot Scenes?

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  1. Davis Prime

    Davis Prime Active Member

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    If you've watched the movie, you'll know the who'll story of how the Autobots & decepticons have been fighting for ----?(did they even say how long they've been fighting for? nevermind), Anyways you know that perspective of the robots like in one scene in the cartoons you always had the Bots & Cons talking about their plots to save or destroy, you get what Im saying? In the Movie the Cons never got their side of the story told, everything was just told by the Bots. They never got their whole plot told. There was no talking between the Cons just by the end of the movie, so why not during the arrival of the Bots, or BB's capture, or Sam's interrogation with Barricade. There was nothing for them, It was just a straight up Autobot movie.
     
  2. Gears

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    Yup, the Decepticons were really lacking for character development, except maybe for Frenzy.
     
  3. jazz_00

    jazz_00 legen wait 4 it dary

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    thats 1 of the main things that let me down in this movie. alouth i liked the movie i really wished we couldve seen more decepticon screen time.
     
  4. StefanXPrime

    StefanXPrime Hater of all things G1

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    All the people i saw it with didn't care that they didn't have characterization. We just wanted to see them fight.
     
  5. smkspy

    smkspy is one nice fucking kitty

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    Hopefully, the Cons will become more than :::insert random evil bad guy here::: for the sequel.
     
  6. Chaos Prime

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    Well I think one reason why the movie was so deficient of Decepticon activity was because it focused too much on Australian computer chicks, and hackers. Becasue you know, they bring in the crowds more then the actual villians.
     
  7. Valkysas

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    no "plot scenes"? then what was the whole beginning of the movie with blackout and scorponok? and frenzy's attack on air force one that shows you exactly what they're after?
     
  8. MegaMoonMan

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    I did find it odd that the other decepticons were just hangin' out before being called. They could have at least mentioned them, or shown snips of them causing problems wherever they were at.

    Are we supposed to think they were just lazying around army bases, letting humans drive them around?
     
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  9. Bryan

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    As far as scenes for characterization, the writers did mention at BotCon that without a human to serve as a stand-in for the audience, it was difficult for the Decepticons to have any character scenes or exposition.

    That's why we had the 'Con roll-call bit towards the end, just so there'd be SOME familiarization before the climax.
     
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    its simple, the Decepticons are so badass they don't need plot or character development
     
  11. bugmenot

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    It's simple really. Michael Bay and the writers don't understand the concept of "gray". In their world, evil is evil, and good is good. The world is black and white. There's no wiggle room. Why characterize the villians? Then there might *gasp* be some kind of rationalization to their motives, God forbid it.
     
  12. Spartan-117

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    The Decepticon's needed to be seen as big bad monsters for the introduction to work. The audience was meant to feel the fear of the humans and Autobots, giving them significant development would hinder that.
    Although I suspect for the sequel they'll change it a bit, can't have the same thing twice.
     
  13. Valkysas

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    I don't believe that at all.

    mysterious villains = more intimidating villains
     
  14. darthrage

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    Why?? Because the focus is on the humans and the Autobots
     
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    Spartan-117 hit the nail on the head.
     
  16. JusticeSabre

    JusticeSabre FLUKE the SYSTEM.

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    Simple reason: THE WRITERS AND DIRECTOR SUCK.
     
  17. JusticeSabre

    JusticeSabre FLUKE the SYSTEM.

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    Shit... with that kind of thinking, you'd end up not being able to contain the entire story to just one 2 hour film!
    You'd have to make several films to tell the whole story, and we all know that's not profitable...
     
  18. bugmenot

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    I find villains that have motives, and their followers are more then just drones to be a hell of alot more compelling.
     
  19. T16skyhopp

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    agreed. a simple confirmation of starscream's deceit would have been nice.
     
  20. Jimmyjimjim

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    Wow, that was....simplified..

    I read an interview with Mike Bay that talked about the fact that the animation and effects were so expensive and time consuming to do that they had to very carefully choose how often they could show the robots.

    That being said, I'm sure they didn't want to waste time on Decepticon exposition when they could show more action.

    As much as some nice Starscream/Megatron whining/scheming sessions would have been nice, I think they made a good call.

    However, I could have done without "Nokiabot" and "DewBot" (or Bumblebee urinating) if it would've meant just one more scene in which "Big M" insults Starscream.
     

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