Why isn't Jazz a Prime?

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  1. ILoveDinobot

    ILoveDinobot Arise Rodimus Prime

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    Was this discussed? Aside from the name being wierd, why isn't the bot directly under Magnus a Prime? He is working directly under Magnus isn't he?
     
  2. Torque

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    Prime is like a captain, meaning you prbly had to go through a certain kind of training. Jazz went through ninja training instead of Prime training.
     
  3. ILoveDinobot

    ILoveDinobot Arise Rodimus Prime

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    But I would think he is captain of the Ninjas then. So doesn't he have some kind of title?
     
  4. janeDoe001

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    Well, I can't speak for the writers but I believe that while Jazz is in the Elite Guard, he's not in charge. (he asked Sentinel for orders after Ultra Magnus was beaten by Starscream in 'Mission Accomplished'.) And in Autoboot Camp, we learned that there are at least three different positions in the Elite Guard: Intel Specialists, Troopers and Commanders.

    I have no idea which of the two categories Jazz is but it's not commander.


    jD001
     
  5. Torque

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    well, Dai Atlas is really more the "captain of ninjas"-Jazz is just Ultra Magnus's personal ninja, prbly passed his ninja training with flying colors. make sense?

    im sure they will go further into detail in a few episodes-5 cervos of doom, i think is the episode name.
     
  6. shroobmaster

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    Jazz is probably just another fighter in the EG squad. not really a commanding officer like Sentinel.
     
  7. ILoveDinobot

    ILoveDinobot Arise Rodimus Prime

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    I see, thanks. :) 
     
  8. Raziel3024

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    He SHOULD be a Prime.
    Jazz Prime has a great ring to it.
     
  9. SPLIT LIP

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    He's a ninja-bot, that's a rank in a way. And I don't think he's captain of the ninjas, since he never once showed anything suggesting he was above Prowl's rank. And it's been shown that Elite Guard Primes don't have rank over regular Primes, it just means they're the ones who fight, so the same would go for ninja bots. (though being a ninja bot seems to be less a military thing and more like a practice, though they do have them as "security gurads" from what I can tell)
     
  10. Vexza

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    Because it's Jazz. xDD Jk.

    Pretty much what Split Lip said. ^
     
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    Jazz seems to be ranked under Sentinel Prime that's why he is not a prime
     
  12. Particle_Beam

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    So, Jazz Minor, in that case? :p 

    Nah, I agree with the others that as Cyberninja, they're outside the regular ranks and serve as personal spy-assassins to whomever they're assigned, propably (except Prowl, who admitted to never having finished his training, and was probably assigned as cutter to Optimus' team because he was too much a loner back then).
     
  13. Vexza

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    Yeah, and about Prowl, anyone else notice that he isn't listed as a member of Optimus's crew? At least on Lockdown's computer he isn't...
     
  14. Silent_Magnus

    Silent_Magnus Taint of Primus

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    I think he's supposed to be the security officer on Optimus's crew.
    Like Ironhide in Rodimus's team.
     
  15. Vexza

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    Ironhide is a security officer? o.0

    And wouldn't Prowl have to be, like, fully trained to do that?
     
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    Silent_Magnus Taint of Primus

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    Rodimus's team and their functions according to their tech specs.

    Rodimus Prime - Cavalier
    Ironhide - Security
    Red Alert - Medic
    Hot Sot - Pyrotechnics
    Brawn- Demolitions

    I'm guessing Optimus's crew has simmilar functions.

    And maybe Prowl's incomplete training is why he's security for a spacebridge repair crew?


    edit: Oh yeah, I should probably say something on topic.

    Jazz is probably not a Prime because he's a ninja.
    We'll probably find out more about them in the episode "Five Servos of Doom",
    or whatever it's called.
     
  17. Vexza

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    Maybe. But I think Prowl has some relations with the Decepticons prior to becoming a repair bot.

    Don't ask me for logic on that one, it's more of a hunch.

    Besides, Prowl doesn't have anything to do with the Elite Guard, whereas Rodimus and his team are an Elite Guard force.
     
  18. brollicon

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    maybe because he is the black autobot JOKE:) 
     
  19. Vexza

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    xD That is true though, Prowl's the only black Autobot we've seen so far.

    Unless I'm forgetting someone...
     
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    The possibility exists that Jazz MAY be a Prime, but doesn't like the stuffy connotations associated with the rank and refuses to be called by it. He's a cool, laid-back dude who's okay with bending the rules, after all - unlike Sentinel.
     

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