Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by tb-1599, Mar 3, 2011.
I have always wondered about that. Are they just that hard to get? Are they really that limited?
Exclusive items that are produced in low quantities. Less items made means more expensive to produce per item. On the aftermarket, it's all about supply and demand. The numbers available are even lower, which increases the sense of "must have", and the prices tick up or down based on that demand.
yea I get the whole supply and demand and the aftermarket value. I get several exclusives at comic con every year. But to get the set at Botcon its usually 300 bucks or so isnt it?? I mean how many do they make 500.
"Why is the botcon exclusive set always so expensive?"
Answer lies in the bolded word of your thread title.
Exclusive = smaller batch of production = increase in cost per unit produced.
yea but exclusive doesnt always mean exclusive. For example the Aniversary edition of Blaster that was an exclusive at SDCC also went onsale on the day after SDCC ended.So when it comes to "exclusive" from my personal experience that term is used way to loosely so are they limited and numbered?? Or do they only make like 2000 or so and THATS IT??
It's an exclusive in the sense that it's only offered at Botcon, and there aren't many sets actually manufactured.
There's a list of individual Botcon toys somewhere, with actual quantities that were made.
I am not trying to get anybodies goat or anything I am just courious.
The botcon set is so expensive because the TCC has to pay hasbro for the use of the molds. Also as previously said it has to do with the number of each figure that was made. The lower the amount made the more they can charge. Also we have to pay for any new parts, like the new heads we get every year.
What do you mean by this?
Everything that is required to make a set like this is not cheap so it all adds up to a bigger price in the end.
yep, usually they only make around 1500 or 2000 and that's it. No more. Not numbered but definitely there is a hard limit. To have a manufacturer make only that much especially with new head it's going to cost more per unit to make.
Blaster didn't require any extra tooling, or design.
A standard release Hasbro toy is produced in what numbers? 10,000? 25,000?
It's just a figure of speech. He means he didn't mean to anger/ irritate anyone.
ok see now that explains it a little I didnt know that Botcon had to pay for the rights to the mold I thought Hasbro supplied them...
Also based on what i have seen since i do not have any botcon toys myself they also appear to have more paint apps than standard releases which also increases cost. Correct me if i am wrong about the paint apps its just based on imagegs/viedeos.
Bingo. Fewer produced plus retools plus extra paint apps plus licensing=increased price, even without electronics. Comic-Con Blaster was a straight-up reissue mass-produced by Hasbro.
Lets not forget the obvious, Funpub uses the money to pay for a good chunk of the convention, which is very expensive. Between the events, the guests, the dinner, the convention center, the staff, the marketing, the list goes on and on.
Our resources section has a partial list for production runs on some pieces. Far from complete, if anyone wants to help us out with some of the numbers we're missing, drop a PM to me or one of the content team.
Does anyone actually know the budget pricing when it comes to paint apps? I meam, whats the budget based off of? Because the difference in paint apps. between say United and RTS are rather drastic. And not just the whole metallic shit, but from painting of a rim and not painting a rim. Huge yet very miniscule difference, yet a huge difference for the budget?
Confuses me, that's all.
Its different with how hasbro and takara do it. Hasbro has a paint budget that needs to be spread across all the figures in a wave to maintain the standard price point. Takara bases price and paint apps on each individual figure because they are able to charge differently for each individual figure.
How do you guys know how HASTAK budgets their toys? Is this all speculation?
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