Why is Aligned such a mess?

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Megano, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. Mako Crab

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    And that, to me, just seems silly. It's like Takara trying to claim that every TF show is all one timeline. Or Nintendo coming out with its incoherent Zelda chronology or Konami's official Castlevania timeline. Sometimes it's ok to disregard an official source.
     
  2. bellpeppers

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    If nobody disregarded HASBRO in this matter then this subject would not exist and we wouldn't be here.
    We would all be chanting "Aligned is good and perfect because HASBRO says so" like good little Teansfan minions.
     
  3. Mako Crab

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    Aligned is fine so long as you limit it to TFP, Rescue Bots & RID2015.
     
  4. johnboy3434

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    Umm, having seen all three of the timelines you speak of, nothing really screams "THIS CANNOT POSSIBLY BE RIGHT", except maybe the Takara monstrosity. Even then, it's not that it CAN'T work, but just that it stretches disbelief a bit.
     
  5. RKillian

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    Because it was designed by a committee of people who knew nothing and cared even less. Put these ninnies on charge of pizza and they'll find a way to destroy that market too.
     
  6. Starscream Gaga

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    You know, except for the fact that OOT was clearly written as to serve as a prequel for ALTTP, considering all the events match up to those described in the opening of that game... Only for them to go and say that it's not and that all the events described in ALTTP were different circumstances that occurred in an alternate timeline where Link was killed by Ganondorf in OOT which literally came out of nowhere.

    The "official" timeline given in Hyrule Historia really just felt like Nintendo saying "N-Nu-uh!" to all the people who had put together a coherent timeline using the two logical branches in continuity. It just didn't make sense.
     
  7. Jus09

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    Two words; Poor. Planning.
     
  8. MelficeCyrum

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    I basically consider The Covenant of Primus to be the only real 'canon' for Aligned since that was something Hasbro advertised it as being. It has a few errors sure, but that's what it was made for and it was sold as such.
     
  9. RazorclawX

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    If you look at the timeline right it's still a prequel-- just not in the way you thought it was.

    It's like how one character in Fullmetal Alchemist points out during the discussion of the Taking a Third Option, that if the Third Option where you succeed in everything you set out to do existed there must also be a Fourth Option where you completely fail in everything you set out to do.
     
  10. Starscream Gaga

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    No.

    In ALTTP there was a detailed backstory on a sequence of events, then later OOT, which was explicitly set before that game, featured a series of events that specifically coincided with those detailed in ALTTP. It's not "in the way I thought it was" because it's what it was. Hyrule Historia's retcon is a terrible one that makes absolutely no sense. It has a lot in common with the mess that is the Aligned continuity and seeing as the very next game after its publication contradicted it it's pretty well already obsolete.

    Just to lay it out:

    In ALTTP, it's detailed that a thief king called Ganondorf managed to wrest control of the Triforce and corrupt the Sacred Realm in which it resided, resulting in a massive war that was eventually ended when seven sages sealed Ganondorf, now a monster called Ganon, into the Sacred Realm.

    In OOT, Ganondorf, the king of the thief tribe Gerudo, manages to trick the young Link and Zelda into pulling the Master Sword and giving him access to the Sacred Realm, wherein he steals the Triforce and corrupts it. Link is kept asleep in the only non-corrupted part of the Sacred Realm for seven years, during which a massive war takes place. After his awakening, Link brings together Seven Sages and, after a climatic battle wherein Ganondorf becomes a monster called Ganon, Ganondorf is sealed into the Sacred Realm by the Seven Sages.

    It's the same damn story.
     
  11. CybertronianFan

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    Because they tried to force different timelines/genres to each other, especially when most of them didn't fit.
     
  12. Hanzkaz

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    Some of the people involved left (Aaron Archer, for instance). Others had different ideas, or didn't want to be restricted in their creativity. There was also miscommunication and issues between the people working on the toys, TV series, etc, and I guess some of them probably got fed up with the whole thing.

    Basically, as I understand it, there were two many cooks, and then they got a new head chef who wanted to try a different recipe.
     
  13. Autovolt 127

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    Pretty Much.

    I disregard the Cybertron games as their own thing.