I have sat quietly over the last couple of weeks and watched the firestorm going on on pretty much all the TF boards. At first when I saw the designs for bots like BB, starscream and megatron, I initally thought they sucked too. Overall I has not happy with the direction the movie seems to be taking. That being said I find alot of what I have read around the boards to be overly dramatic. "Raping childhoods" is something Freddy Krueger and the Boogey man do, not a corporate company. After a few days I did two things a very large portion of the fandom seems unable to do. I sat down and took myself out of a fans shoes and looked at it from NON fan perspective. As such I came to few truths: 1. This not the 80s, campy things that worked then WILL NOT work now, when people go to a movie these days, they expect a stand alone story that they dont have to know the source material to understand, and to be able to relate to the characters. I really think things like sub space, mass shifting..etc simply wont work. I mean even as a kid I didn't get why bumble bee was only slightly taller than spike in robot form, when he could ride around in him in alt mode. Where primes trailer went...etc. The audience will likely reject these things, the same way they rejected all that dragon ball Z fighting in the matrix sequals. Humans DO NEED to be in this movie. If all this movie had was 2 hours of CGI robots shooting each other it would flop. Kids AND adults need a frame of reference and something relatable, and humans can be used as a plot device to explain questions people in the audience who never watched transformers will undoubtedly have. Secondly on the subject of humans, transformers died out a season after humans were mainly removed from the plot, if you think that had nothing to do with it dying, I really dont know what to say. EVERY hit kid show that followed had some kind of human element to it, be it the main characters were humanoid (thundercats,silverhawks...etc) Every hit kid show NOW still has a strong human element: Pokemon, Digimon, Ninja Turtles, Naruto, Yu gi OH, Card Captors, One Piece,Sonic EX etc. Power rangers has been going strong for over 14 years here in the states, if that doesnt exemplify how relevent the human element is, I dont know what will. (On a separate not Power Rangers toys have been on the shelves for 14 years and it doesnt have NEARLY the collector fanbase TFs have, thats a telling fact in itself) 2. The second thing I realized is that a movie that panders completely to fans and is slavish to the source material would be a commercial flop, and no one would really enjoy it, even the fans. I base this one on a movie the gf and I saw a while back: SILENT HILL. We had 2 very different experiences there. While I somewhat enjoyed the movie, she ABSOLUTELY HATED it. She would not let me hear the end of it for the next week about how the movie made no sense. When I thought about it, she had valid points. Things in that movie just APPEARED for no reason. I really couldnt explain WHY the hell Pyramid head was there, or why he just melted away before he killed them. I couldn't explain what the hell those bugs with faces, or the walking flesh bags, or the laughing in the bathroom, or the nurses with no faces were-ALL I could do was say it was in the games. They came across as just convaluted crap in the movie. I also could not explain the transition from normal silent hill to hellish silent hill. The closest I came was a gateway to hell/parallell hell dimension, which she glazed over on. Admittedly the movie played out like a 2 hour walk through of the game, and even though I am a fan of the game, I really didnt enjoy the movie of much as tolerate it, and if I had no prior, or just passing knowledge of the series I would have hated it too. There are many things like that in TFs. Simple things like how the TFs even MOVE or TALK(or why they even WOULD considering computers can digitally transmit) have to be redone to make some modicrum of sense, even in a science fiction way-I mean when I picture TF as it was in 1984 translated to live action I get Power rangers, maybe much better looking CGI, but still power rangers. Even if this movie was a 2 hour g1 fan wank, people would still hate it, the fandom is simply too divided to agree on anything, and the only thing that would happen would be more of what goes on now-endless circular arguing. All in all I will see this movie, and I am certain I will at least enjoy it. There are some things I had to accept to get that frame of mind, and I am sure it applies to many others in the fandom. 1. Get over yourselves-even though you have bought TFs for many years, you do not own, have any entitlement, or have any authority over the TF property. 2. New people are going to be brought into the fandom. EMBRACE them, and dont treat them like they are pledges for some exclusive fraternity. 3. What ever the movie is, it will be. No sense in worrying about a moive nearly a year away. Also what you invision as the perfect TF movie will not corrolate with what someone else does. 4. You will NOT magically transport back to 1984 and revert to 8 years old in the mobie theater, dont expect for the movie to rekindle your childhood, or you are just setting yourself up for disappointment. At the end of the day, I am content to let Bay and DM make the movie, hope that it is something the MASSES can enjoy, that it brings in a whole new generation into the fandom, and even rekindles some of the old generation's love for it.