Why have Que?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Finchfan000, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. Finchfan000

    Finchfan000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Posts:
    254
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +1
    ***Spoiler Alert***


    Que could have been easily replaced with Ratchet instead. Even the death scene would have been extremely dramatic if it was Ratchet, not some unknown. I think Ratchets death would have added to the overall urgency and darkness of the movie. Instead they introduce Que and make Ratchet virtually useless throughout the whole trilogy.
     
  2. Creaky

    Creaky King of Puppies

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    3,509
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Likes:
    +2
    I was just glad Ratchet got to be Optimus' moon-buddy. :D 
     
  3. Oracle_Aesir

    Oracle_Aesir Outback is back

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Posts:
    1,552
    News Credits:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +6
    They should have had Comettor for that role! lol
     
  4. Starscreamer69

    Starscreamer69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    Posts:
    1,243
    Trophy Points:
    147
    Location:
    Perth, Western Australia
    Likes:
    +26
    Mm you do have a point there. Would've been even an even more depressing scene, because we've known Ratchet (admittedly not that well) over the duration of 3 movies. Que only had 3 scenes in which he spoke, and overall I think he appeared in robot mode in the background for 2 more scenes.
     
  5. Cyberwolf1980

    Cyberwolf1980 Deceptus Templar C-Dub TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Posts:
    982
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Likes:
    +2
    Ratchet was more of a field medic than a scientist. Combat was second nature. Wheeljack didn't seem the type to fight back so his pleading made it an, overall, more emotional death.
     
  6. Prowl

    Prowl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2002
    Posts:
    18,619
    News Credits:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +34
    I liked him. He was a cool character, and I felt really bad when he died. As bad as I felt when Prowl and Ironhide died in the original movie. It was a brutal death for a bot who was willing to help anyone. He made it possible for the humans to have a weapon against the cons.
     
  7. megachin

    megachin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    431
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +0
    Yeah I felt the same way too, poor Q
     
  8. Cyberwolf1980

    Cyberwolf1980 Deceptus Templar C-Dub TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Posts:
    982
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Likes:
    +2
    I too agree, although those weapons he developed did kinda come out of nowhere but that was more about limited characterization and screen time. I'm sure there might have been a cut scene where he's working on them, possibly with said items blowing up in his face :D 
     
  9. nametaken

    nametaken Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,290
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    agree with the OP.
     
  10. MrRoy

    MrRoy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2007
    Posts:
    260
    Trophy Points:
    82
    Likes:
    +3
    Someone has to help put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
     
  11. DecepticonSpike

    DecepticonSpike Kimber/Stormer Fanboy

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2005
    Posts:
    8,227
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Dayton, Ohio
    Likes:
    +94
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    We already had Ironhide die, and if they killed off Ratchet too, that could have been too much for the audience, losing two characters who have been there since the beginning of the movieverse.
     
  12. Starscreamer69

    Starscreamer69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    Posts:
    1,243
    Trophy Points:
    147
    Location:
    Perth, Western Australia
    Likes:
    +26
    I think that was the point the OP was trying to make.
     
  13. DecepticonSpike

    DecepticonSpike Kimber/Stormer Fanboy

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2005
    Posts:
    8,227
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Dayton, Ohio
    Likes:
    +94
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    True, but I think from a director or writer standpoint, they wanted a character who was new die so that they could move on with the action faster.
     
  14. Starscreamownz

    Starscreamownz Air Commander

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Posts:
    3,800
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Likes:
    +5
    If they killed Ratchet instead I would have been saddened. A lot.
     
  15. itMFtis

    itMFtis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2007
    Posts:
    950
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    117
    Likes:
    +2
    Kind of like how we lost Starscream and Megatron? Starscream has had more screentime and dialog than Ratchet.

    I thought Q dying was fair. Autobots lost one old and one new character.
     
  16. DecepticonSpike

    DecepticonSpike Kimber/Stormer Fanboy

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2005
    Posts:
    8,227
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Dayton, Ohio
    Likes:
    +94
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    Not really, since the story is told from the POV of the Autobots, and the intent of the director and writer is to get the audience to not like the Decepticons.
     
  17. DecepticonsRule

    DecepticonsRule Triple-Changer

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2007
    Posts:
    1,788
    News Credits:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +10
    1) To sell toys
    2) To have another new robot in the film

    I'm glad they included Q. He didn't do that much, but when he was on screen he made use of his screentime. His death, I think everyone agrees, was really sad.
    Keep in mind, he's not Ratchet. Ratchet's a medic, Q's an inventor. He actually did have a purpose too- he made the weapons that Sam uses to take out Starscream. Then, his death makes the audience hate the Decepticons even more.
     
  18. uruseiranma

    uruseiranma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2007
    Posts:
    2,161
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Likes:
    +1
    Because someone needed to remind us that we're all good chaps here.
     
  19. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Dry built

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2005
    Posts:
    66,385
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    407
    Location:
    agile house
    Likes:
    +892
    Ratchet has never been shown inventing or creating wepaons, so it was probably more credible to bring in a new character and introduce the audience to him, helped by his design.
     
  20. TylerMirage

    TylerMirage I vawnt my berdt.

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2009
    Posts:
    7,355
    News Credits:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +12
    :lol  But seriously, I am glad that Ratchet was able to join Optimus on that little mission. It may have been short, with not a whole lot of interaction, but boy was that scene cool! :D  Some more lines from Ratchet regarding 'stasis lock' or 'loss of energon' or whatever would've been neat. Something to show his medic-side.

    :lol 

    Do I think that Ratchet could've filled Que's role? Kind of. To a certain extent, maybe. Do I think Que was cool in the little time he got? Oh yes. Could Ratchet's death have added an extra gravitas to the movie? Yes. But I would've rather not had Ratchet go out* like Que did. *On that note, I :lol  when the 'Cons were holding the Autobots prisoner and they were shoving Ratchet around. He got all "old man"-like and was like "Get off of me!" and he fell to the ground. You cannot contain Ratchet!
     

Share This Page