Why don't the decepticons have any color?

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  1. awesomem131

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    I noticed that most tfmovie decepticon toys are generally colorful but in the movie the color scheme is kind of bland (with the exception of some).But why is that and what if they decide to bring the rest of the seekers in the mix are they all gonna be silver?
     
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    Probably because the few Decepticons who are focued apon outside of The Fallen (Megatron, Starscream) are already mostly gray to begin with? That, and the Decepticons didn't really get a whole lot of screentime anyway.

    Also, the Movie Toyline has a lot of not-on-screen characters who only have toys, such as all the ROTF Decepticon scouts save Scalpel. More colors that are visually appealing will sell better to young kids, especially if they didn't see Optimus ripping their face off or otherwise dying horribly in the movie.

    Lastly, who said anything about Seekers, or at least the normal useage of the term? It's already been established that "Seekers" in the movieverse are the really old guys who were the first true "Transformers", not a whole squadron of colorful jets. I highly doubt Starscream's "flying Circus" will make an appearance on-screen, it might take screen time away from Bumblebee or the humans as far as the last two movies have shown (it could be different, though, since the third movie has a new writer)
     
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    Movieverse Seekers where the ancient Cybertronians who took off after the Allspark.

    The Decepticons mostly don't have much bright colors because the things they have been turning into lacks it. Like a tank, an F22 jet or really anything military. Brightest where the Constructicons.
     
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    The film makers don't really care for the Decepticons all that much so why put much effort into something that is just cannon fodder to make your good guys look all bad ass with their body count. Heck most of them don't even get a voice actor so why put in the effort for paint.

    Hasbro on the other hand knows that bad guys are important for their lines. Without Cobra GI Joe would have just been a bunch of oversized little green army men with better articulation. Without Darth Vader and Storm Troopers Luke Skywalker is just a whiny teen. Without Decepticons the Transformers might have been Go Bots.

    So Hasbro puts the same care and attention into their Decepticons that they put into their Autobots. Which means giving them a bit of color and some personality. Ha ha, and it wouldn't be Hasbro without a few repaints.
     
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    Matrix actually. Seekers as per what Jetfire said of his lineage and Wheelie calling them the oldest descended from the first generation Decepticons the Fallen commanded.

    Megatron, with the Fallen in the background, formed his Decepticon faction splitting from the Autobots to obtain the Allspark.

    For some reason the Autobot's ancestors kept their history hidden with the only recordings of the incident on prehistoric Earth on the Allspark.

    As for their color, the colors are from what alt mode they chose. There are some like Starscream and the Arcee trio that like to use tattoos.

    On Cyberetron in the flashback of Megatron committing genocide Autobots and Decepticons are colored in monochome.
     
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    because colorful bad guys aren't very threatening in appearance
     
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    Well, they're bad guys. They're not there to be colourful. They're supposed to look scary and unfriendly.
     
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    Um, hello? Look at their alt-modes... the majority of them are military vehicles, and military vehicles aren't exactly colorful nor are they intended to be colorful.

    Like Weremole said, only the Constructicons/Devastator were colorful.
     
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    Wait ti'L Tf3, it may no longer be the case. We don't know much about Bayverse when it comes to robots, besides, we only have 2 films for references or debates.
     
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    Maybe because the vehicle modes are bland?

    Or ZOMG MICHEAL BAY CHILDHOOD RAPE
     
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    I hope the lack of Decepticon personality and color is more due to the writers. Most Orci/Kurtzman material lacks any sort of exciting villian, while Ehren Kruger has written some decent villians (especially Arlington Road.) I'm hoping with a new writer, the unnecessary critical reception of TF2, and Hasbro's desire for some more Cons, we'll get a few new BADASS car Decepticons in TF3.
     
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    Yeesh, even these Decepticon nascars don't seem very colourful what with all these metal bits on.
     
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    Excuse me for misremembering that. The Mcguffin ladder is ROTF is just so... argh...

    About as colorful as Demolishor. Actually the effect is the opposite. Nascar cars are already so colorful that when breaking up the pattern and sprouting giant engines and hundreds of guns it kind of blends together.

    That said I really like the look of these Mad Max-ish guys.

    Kindof. But more due to time. Characterization takes time and when you already have expensive CGI that you need to budget, five + Autobots and the human heroes you don't have a lot of screentime left for the big bads footsoldiers.

    On the other hand Megatron and Starscream had more character moments in ROTF than Prime and Bumblebee had in two movies.
     
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    That's a very good point. Ehren Kruger has written several films now that have a nice degree of character and tension to them so he could be the answer to having better Decepticons since it's the bad guys and a chance of them winning that adds tension to a film.

    Plus it's possible that Kruger is being a big positive influence on the movie. When it was Orci and Kurtzman we didn't have things like Prime's trailer but now with Kruger we get the trailer. Perhaps he's more influential when it comes to selling how little things can mean a lot.
     
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    Boy, if only the movie Decepticons were colorful like Darth Vadar and the Storm Troopers!

    You hear that, Hasbro? White and black! Why aren't the Decepticons THOSE vibrant hues?
     
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    Way to completly miss the point!

    This is so true. Even their Star Trek movie that is being soooo praised by evrybody had a totaly lame, forgetable and totally uninteresting villain...
     
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    Really? The point of this thread is why the Decepticons aren't colorful.

    I fail to see how The Big Bad Leader and His Army of Cannon Fodder is any different from The Big Bad Leader and His Army of Cannon Fodder.

    Man, Stormtrooper #29102 was my favorite. He was such a well developed character, the way he stood there holding a gun.
     
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    I'm thinking this. I also believe Orci and Kurtzman with Bay aren't a great combo... I think their writing style is too complicated for Bay. They wrote the Island, which at points was too complicated (I liked it tho), TF1, they kept it relatively simple and lite (but still had too many plot threads running, just like their show Fringe), and then in part 2 they did the same thing, but tried to add in elements of the mythos. I like a lot of their stuff (cuz I like overanalyzing) but they make things more complicated than need be. Fringe has 12 billion open plot threads that were never closed. Both TF movies (ROTF even more so) had issues like this.


    Well mainly because Darth Vader had enough characterization to mean something. Not to mention Star Wars was a new IP at that point, without 20 plus years of characterization and design. When you adapt a property that has established a fan base and expectations, it's harder to get by with drab villians. Not to mention that Transformers has only on rare occasions lacked colorful characters, even if they share the same mold. This is the problem that the second Star Wars trilogy ran into. When something is established, it sets expectations. After 20 plus years of being colorful enemies, the Cons were reduced to gray ,black and green. Not to mention, the cons are each supposed to be sentient, separate characters, not the generic clone troops storm troopers are INTENDED to be.
     
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    Darth Vader's appeal for the longest time was that he was nothing more than a big scary metal man with a booming voice. The more we learned about him (prequel trilogy) the less we liked. His entire character arc in the original trilogy is "I am a big bad guy", "now I have a boss", "Dude. I'm your DAD", followed by a dramatic turn around and unmasking with redemption.
     

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