I hate SHREK-FORMERS Wheeljack and the annoyance of him never loosing a fight has just blown through the roof. I was hoping that Shrek-wave would be that x-factor in this show. But sadly once again the cons fall short, granted that artifact turn the table I'd like to see a legit non-Megatron Autobot beat down with no gimmicks.

At this point I barely tolerant this show. So if a hero is only as good as his enemies then I'm sure a few of you can understand where I'm coming from.

 

Yeah, because you have to lose at least one fight in your three appearances!!!

YOU HAVE TO LOSE AT SOME POINT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU APPEAR!!!

Wait, you want the Autobots to lay some smackdown? Hell, no, the Decepticons are losing like a cliche 80's sci fi villain!

 

Believing that Wheeljack has "never lost a fight" is stupid considering that he spent the majority of his debut episode as a prisoner of the Decepticons after they kicked his ass.

 

We get it, you hate the damn series in general. And I absolutely love your ignorance of Wheeljack's very entrance into the show. The real Wheeljack in that episode DID loose and was captured by Decepticons when he crashed on Earth, while Makeshift impersonated him. And then, while only off-screen, Dreadwing killed Seaspray, so that's technically a non-gimmick Autobot kill.

Also, if you know the ending of Triage, then it's probable you can add you-know-who to that list as well, at least as a casualty.

 

I said no gimmicks. It took 30 of them. Please read carefully before calling someone stupid.

Wheeljack's Wolverine /ninjas persona is too over the top for me but if you like it then fine.
My opinion wont chance with you grasping at straws to prove it wrong anyway.

 

Seriously did you feel Seasprays loss...?

Quit grasping at straws.

 

He was going to kill Wheeljack if Laserbeak's S.O.S. hadn't showed up. And I imagine it would have been a slow, agonizing death.

 

Like, spam the sonic gun until his head explodes agonising?

 

I like the way you think.  

 

This. In fact I think if he really wanted to he could've killed him much earlier in the battle. He just likes playing with his prey first..

 

You know, on the promo, when Soundwave clamped Jackie with the tentacle, I thought he was going to devour his spark. Like, the tentacles are actually mouths that eat Sparks, or something creepy like that.

I think Soundwave prefers to avoid killing people. Only when Jackie cracked his face and kneed him off a cliff did he think: "Right, f*ck you, time to die."

 

This is exactly what I was going to post.

Spoiler

If Soundwave had killed Wheeljack, then Wheeljack wouldn't have to live with the shame of having his tailpipe handed to him. Soundwave got a crack on his visor. That's it. Wheeljack got pwned. I headbanged.

 

I do not see any fun in playing with prey, if it doesn't lead to it's death at the end of the "show".

 

Where are these "Shrek formers" you speak off?

 

Megatron tells SW what to do and SW does it, nothing more and nothing less.

 

The energon expenditure of a deadly strike is weighed against all other necessary actions, and is passed up.

 

Don´t forget in Darkness Rising, when he grabbed the axe from Miko and, instead of cutting the kids in half, used it to sever the computer system's hardline.

Or in One Shall Rise, Part 3, when he beated the crap of a rebellious Airachnid until she yielded, leaving her humilliated but alive.

I think he has a sort of personal code of not killing anyone unless Megatron orders him to.

 

I counted about 6 Vehicons attacking Wheeljacks ship in Con Job, not the 30 you claim it took. In either case, I fail to see how someone being outnumbered is a "gimmick". Care to explain?

Shrek is animated using CGI. Prime also uses CGI. Thus, "Shrek-Formers".

 

To be outnumbered by Vehicons means nothing, unless there is twenty of them around.

 

But the original Shrek Was a masterpiece! Hardly a derogatory nickname... or a catchy one.

Oh yeah, the topic. Soundwave probably does have a code Of honor or something, being a former gladiator and all. I'd honestly like to see his backstory, but I don't think we'll ever see that.