Why do we need the AFA ?

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  1. IACON

    IACON "That's Vector Sigma?" TFW2005 Supporter

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    Ok, although I am still a rookie at selling Tf's over ebay, but I have noticed that Tf's that come sealed in the AFA clear boxes cost way to much. So I gonna ask : Why do we need the AFA for the transformers ? What good does it give to the avarage joe that wants to buy an MISB ?
     
  2. Aaron

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    Technically the AFA and similar groups guarantee a certain level of quality on your item. If they say it's C9.8 it's C9.8. It also is boxed such that it'll be difficult to damage it or change the state of said item without breaking the box.

    Personally, I think it's a waste of time/money. It's a method for sellers to jack the price as high as possible for the least amount of money possible.
     
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    the AFA is an price-hiking system.

    thats pretty much all it is.
     
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    Agreed.

    If you do your research, you'll find exactly what your looking for. And you'll find it at a much better price. Then you can seal it yourself in a plastic case or however you like to preserve your MISB items.
     
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    AFA = CGC

    CGC = bullshit

    I dunno if it's entirely fair to say that it's an excuse for the seller to jack up the price. I swear half of all AFA/CGC stuff is up on Ebay at any given moment and the bidders are the ones jacking the price up 1000%.
    There's zero reason to pay $2000 for a MOSC figure that could be gotten for a couple hundred in the same condition with a little patience.
    Question is: Would AFA/CGC be what they are if Ebay didn't exist? It seems much of their reason for being is due to the relatively sudden widespread ability to buy things online sight unseen, save for pics, which don't always subtitute for seeing it in person.
     
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    afa worked specifically with SW vintages action figures, because due to size and packaging theyre easily spoilt and frauds to slip through.

    TF toys are less susceptible.
     
  7. IACON

    IACON "That's Vector Sigma?" TFW2005 Supporter

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    I personally thinks that for all these reasons we should ban all AFA sealed items and buy/sell all the MISB items that does not have the AFA sealing boxes.
    The price-hiking is not justified at all.
     
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    It's in now, ppl will regret it in the future most likely when prices drop like crazy.
     
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    A few of the 'Chinese versions' did get an AFA grade. When they were exposed AFA's reaction was to say that in future they'll be labled 'Chinese variant' or something like that.

    I've heard somewhere (not sure if it's true) that they're closely aligned with Cloud City Collectables...

    Their grading system is a little arbitrary it seems..... an absolutely perfect package could still come back with an 85.

    Based on what I've heard, AFA don't charge a flat fee either. They charge a percentage of what the toy is deemed to be worth....

    I'm not sure it's one of those 'bubble is going to burst things' but i do think those who are investing in AFA toys may not see much profit down the road.
     
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    I have heard the same, but don't have any concrete evidence to prove it. If in fact they do then we’ve got a MAJOR conflict-of-interest on our hands. The AFA should be completely independent from any dealer and/or vendor; period. Otherwise, who’s to say items submitted by these individuals will receive preferential grades?

    My main concern with the AFA is their highly irregular grading scale. I’ve seen items that deserve 70 get an 85 and vice versa. This is unfair to buyers who base their purchases solely on the number printed on the sticker.

    Although I do like their cases a lot, they’re grading system needs a major overhaul, IMO.
     
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    I always wondered if AFA was affiliated with ToyFare. They are constantly promoting their services with a special column every month.

    Personally I think the whole AFA obsession is stupid. Even if you get a toy sealed in plastic, it's not going to necessarily stay at a specified condition or grade forever. There is a thing called entropy. You still have to take into account light-fading, warping from humidity, and material degradation. On some metal G1 TFs, the bubble inside the box falls off due to the weight of the Transformer or dried glue. AFA cases won't help you with these problems.
     
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    The wonderful thing about that is there isn't anything keeping that Jetfire from bouncing around inside of that AFA case, and flattening the front.
     
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    I'd love to laugh right in that guy's face.

    Keeping things MISB is one thing, but hermetically sealing them in a plastic box and jacking the price 1000% is moronic.
     
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    Hey...I just bought that toy for your information.
     
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    Oh no you di'int!
     
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    Sucks to be you if ya did.
     
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    THE toy, no problems. THAT toy, we have to have a nice long talk.
     

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