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  1. whoamidri

    whoamidri Mumbling Madman

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    Why didn't he take the matrix when prime offered it to him?
    It may not have made a difference in the end, I just want your opinions.

    my opinion is :::
    If I were in Sentinel's shoes I would have taken the matrix and assumed leadership of the autobots and used my leadership powers to influence the other autobots to join me.
     
  2. RedWolf

    RedWolf Well-Known Member

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    Because Sentinel Prime felt he didn't deserve leadership. He preached Freedom is the Right of Sentient Beings yet is willing to commit Peace through Tyranny just to save Cybertron.

    His bio motto tells all.

    "Freedom without survival is a tragedy, survival without freedom is a curse"
     
  3. Poho

    Poho That's MISTER Poho to you

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    To maintain the ruse, and because he wasn't all bad
     
  4. Aernaroth

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    Because he didn't need it at that point, and figured he could always take it later.
     
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    AlphaTrionA3 Autobot

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    The way I see it, leadership here in on Earth seemed entirely pointless. The humans don't treat the Autobots with respect and he would be leader of refugees who do our dirty work to boot.

    Who wants that when you used to be a god-like entity on your true home planet?
     
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    Maybe he didnt need it? AS far we seen in the movies, the Matrix had 2 purposes: activating the Sun Harvester and revive the dead. With no Allspark there is no need for a Sun Harvester and why he would want to revive a dead bot at this point? :S It was his way or the hard way. Man, Sentinel was cruel. ^^
     
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    That's what I think. That and because he knew Op would be a worthy opponent, maybe?
     
  8. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Because he would have won and the antagonists never win Bay films.
     
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    My guess is because Sentinel still believed in the Prime's, he still believed Optimus deserved it, and since he didn't need it for his plan, didn't see a point in taking it.

    Remember the Matrix isn't the same as it is in other continuities. It's not as covetted. (especially with the harvester destroyed)
     
  10. Soca Taliban

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    The real question is why didn't he kill Optimus at that point or in DC? He took out Ironhide cheaply because he viewed him as a threat, why not take the Matrix and then execute OP??
     
  11. FrankyWest

    FrankyWest As far as it goes

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    Well I guess since unicron is not around, no one really needs it yet either.
     
  12. salmonman78

    salmonman78 Mordin, my hero

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    Well Sentinel seems saddened during this scene, thinking on how peaceful the planet it yet he's about to destroy all that. He still had the "idealistic youth" with him that thought he was the guy that could have saved Cybertron and defeated the 'Cons. He knew what he was about to do and he didn't want to betray the Autobots any further than he had. Still some honor but he already decided his path so he didn't need the matrix.
     
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    Because Sentinel hoped that Optimus would join him. Sentinel was a bit like Darth Vader, believing that what he was doing was right, even though it went against his original ideals, and that everyone in the end would see how he was right.
     
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    No, I'm pretty suire he was still in conflict with himself.
     
  15. whoamidri

    whoamidri Mumbling Madman

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    I appreciate all the opinions so far, definitely some new and interesting points of view as far as I'm concerned.

    I would like to add to my own opinion that if he had taken over leadership from Optimus, he may have been able to save some autobots (which I assume he still cared about since he wasn't all bad) from combat that might have been avoidable. I guess what I am saying is that I feel it could be viewed as a hole in the plot if you look at it that way. It didn't ruin the movie for me, it's only something that bugs me if I think about it.
     
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    megachin Banned

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    I really like how they did Sentinel prime in this film.
     
  18. rebafan1989

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    The real question isnt why he didnt take it, it is

    The real question isnt why he didnt take it, it is why didn't he already have the thing to begin with.

    Optimus stated that Sentinel was the leader of the autobots before he was so. When he left Cybertron in the arc he should have had the matrix with him. It shouldn't have been in Optimus's possession.

    Another problem that I have is that when Optimus revives Sentinal. Sentinal stated that the space bridge is against our laws of physics, If he was caput on the moon since at least 1963 how would he know what our laws of physics are?
     
  19. Gingerchris

    Gingerchris Telly-headed Tyrant

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    Optimus didn't have it either until it was discovered in RotF. The Matrix had been long hidden on Earth by the time Sentinel left Cybertron.
    Internet?
     

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