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  1. Sideswipe80

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    ..create the Dinobots and Wreckgar as Autobots, but the Constructicons were neutral. Was it a random chance or is there more here than meets the eye?
     
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    Wreck Gar was created neutral. He put the Autobot insignia on later in the show.
     
  3. Sso02V

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    The key made the Dinobots into Autobots, but the unfiltered Allspark power just created morally ambiguous bots. Wreck-Gar and the Constructicons all chose the factions they wound up with.
     
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    Crud I forgot that Wreckgar was neutral.
     
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    basically what everyone else said they chose which faction they wanted to be in
     
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    Although he came online with blue optics, if I recall correctly.
     
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    And the Constructicons had yellow ones.
     
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    I think it's just random to be honest.
     
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    blue= Autobot
    red= decepticon
    yellow= neutral
    purple= treacherous (I think, haven't had too many examples of this to be sure)
     
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    Wreck-Gar probably came with blue eyes because they still didn't thing about the "Dude! Let's give neutral guys green eyes!" thing.
     
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    Soundwave too, but that was just a G1 reference
     
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    I guess they want to push the idea that a bot has to chose Autobot or Decepticon instead of being made that way. Some just have personalities that make them more likely to chose one side instead of the other.

    We've already seen that a bot can change sides.
     
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    But Lugnut refers to the Decepticons as a race. So I don't think all bots have a choice. I believe Cybertron born Transformers are born either Autobot or Decepticon. Of course this is just my opinion.
     
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    Wouldn't that make about every Decepticon except Lugnut and Blitzwing purple-eyed? :D 

    Nah, I think purple was just a one thign for Swindle like in G1. there's a general rule to eyte colours, but it's not an uber-strict must always be "one or the other" rule.

    Blackarachnia had red eyes before she was a Decepticon. This was most likely something she picked up from the spiders.

    Ah, but he was technically neutral up until his eyes switched to red when he got the 'Con logo. Up until then he tehy only turned red when Meagtron was controling him.

    "Race" is most likely not meant to be taken literally. every series has had the factions labeled as races at least once (sans movie) even though some guys switch factions liek tehy change hats. (BW showed exactly how this could work. Both factions had decedants that still held the 'family name' that they carried through generations even through the great upgrade. Though individuals could still switch teams if they wanted to)
     
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    What about wasp then?
     
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    Again, he may just have his own thing. Remember it is still just a cartoon. His eyes (and other colours) are meant to represent is mental decay from Wasp to Waspinator. Hence why now, in between, his eyes are purple. (the midway point between blue and red)
     
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    Let me just say a few things,

    1. Wasp/Waspinator's eyes are purple due to the BW characters being
    blueish-purple.
    2. The Allspark creates neutral TFs, but if an outside influence is involved
    in the process of making the robots,( like the fact that it was the combined
    magnet/stinger EMP from Ratchet and Bumblebee powered by the Key that
    made the Dinobots), it will give them a faction to match the ones involved
    (Which also explains Soundwave being a Decepticon)
    3. They can change from an Autobot to a Decepticon, but it is more involved
    to change back,(if you really are one, Wreck-gar branded himself) This
    is true in that the Constructicons being branded by Megatron and it
    changed them, this is also featured in TF Energon when Inferno and Scorponok are given Decepticon Brands by Megatron, it kinda depends on
    the circumstances.
    4. On anonther Allspark related subject the Allspark cube will turn most
    Earth tech evil because it is based off of Megatron, and things like
    cars which gain there origins before Megatron's landing are made into
    Autobots. That is a theory of mine.
     
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    Whatever gave you the idea that the Allspark in Animated was based on Megatron? Its the thing that 'gave them all life' like Vector Sigma, not the other way around. Its a lot older than he is.

    --Moony
     
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    I'm pretty sure that part of his post is about the movie version of the allspark (the cube part in his sentence hints at it). I personally think that the movie's allspark creates primitive/young bots who attack due to confusion. I also think the "based on Megs" part was meant to describe the machines that it was giving life to, not the allspark itself.

    As for the allspark in Animated, the faction they go to more or less is determined by other forces. Like Ratchet and Bumblebee's combined forces on the Dinobots, Megatron building Soundwave, and Megs branding the Constructicons. Wreck-Gar was neutral to begin with, even though he had blue eyes. Personally I don't care that much about the color of their eyes, so the whole correlation between that and what faction they are a part of really has absolutely no meaning to me.
     
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    I can't remember where but I remember reading that the allspark creates robots that attack to defend itself(movie version)also the dinobots may have the autobot symbol, but they act like their own faction.
     

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